EvergreenGuru

Nonsense. It’s these sort of blanket statements that undermine a clear understanding of what each side wants. Putin wanted Ukraine to remain neutral and not join NATO, because the head of NATO, the United States was talking about unprovoked nuclear first strikes and all sorts of crazy things. Zelensky himself publicly floated the idea of Ukraine obtaining nukes. If your choice is between going to war and having a country on your border point nukes at you, then you might go to war.

In fact. The United States claimed Iraq (a country far away from itself) was trying to obtain nukes and invaded it in the 2000s, and that was while the leaders of Iraq were refuting the claim (and the Iraqis were telling the truth).

Zelensky is clearly a weak leader as he can’t even control his former staff. The negotiator goes out, gives an interview saying Johnson gave Zelensky his marching orders, and all you can do is pretend I should be embarrassed? Zelensky was a fool to trust the British, a people known to have cheated and humiliated people across the entire world.

This idea that the NATO powers that gave Ukraine weapons have no influence is very silly. As we’re seeing right in front of our eyes, Trump expects to collect payment for those weapons by taking Ukrainian resources. Of course they wanted Ukraine to prolong the war, accept more weapons, and rack up more debt. Johnson showed up, told them to keep fighting and likely whatever else Zelensky wanted to hear and now we’re at this outcome. Zelensky is at home seething, egg on his face as Trump and Putin decide the fate of his country. Reality is right in front of you and yet you deny it. If Zelensky had any sort of political or military leverage he’d be at the peace talks too.

Boris Johnson told Zelensky not to accept a peace agreement in 2022 when Russia was willing to let Zelensky sit at the table. Now the Ukrainians don’t even get to attend the peace talks, no doubt because the Russians know that it’s the British and the Americans who give Zelensky his orders. Blame whoever you want, the Ukrainians really did it to themselves.

I’m a lone voice crying out in the wilderness.

Edit: And to think Boris Johnson told Zelensky not to accept a peace agreement in 2022 when Russia was willing to let Zelensky sit at the table. Now the Ukrainians don’t even get to attend the peace talks, no doubt because the Russians know that it’s the British and the Americans who give Zelensky his orders. Blame whoever you want, the Ukrainians really did it to themselves.