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The motivations that have contributed to the separatist movement and Alberta’s sense of grievance in recent years are not especially discrete; it’s more like a nebulous Venn diagram. Simple politics have pushed some people toward separatism. Indeed, the paucity of separatist talk during the time when Stephen Harper was prime minister suggests there’s a significant political component to the idea; when Liberals are in power, people feel more inclined to talk about leaving. Culture also plays a role. When Angus Reid pollsters talked to separatists in February 2026, 86.5 percent said they thought Canada forced Alberta to take in too many immigrants, and 96 percent believed that an independent Alberta would better protect personal freedoms.

But ... separatists tend to find the economic arguments particularly seductive. Angus Reid polling shows 96 percent of respondents who want an independent Alberta believe they would be free from economically damaging federal government policies. Separatist leaders promise the elimination of the personal income tax while creating a new provincial sales tax of 5 percent. They also claim Alberta would save $75 billion from no longer paying federal taxes.

Not all separatists promise immediate prosperity, but the argument remains persuasive. Cameron Davies is the leader of the Republican Party of Alberta. “I don’t paint an immediate rosy, utopian picture of what independence looks like,” he says. “Will it be difficult? Yes. Will it be immediate sunshine and rainbows? Probably not. But will it be worth it? Five, ten, fifteen years down the road for your kids and your grandkids? One hundred percent yes.”

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 86 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but it really feels like the separation thing is mostly a guise so that the US can step in and "save" the struggling and destitute Alberta.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago

You mean that they can simply annex it without first ng a shot.

This is basically just a civil type of invasion of the province

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More likely some ill advised Canadian Oil exec that thinks that they will be better off in the US.

Albertan separatists tend to forget that nobodies want their oil, it’s too costly to transform. The only reason they have a place at the table is that the Federal government massively finance it.

At Trump first term their were talks about passing TransMountain down to the US, they refuse because even TM didn’t respect the American safety standards which is fucking low.

Thinking that thing will change in the US or as Independent nation is fucking laughable, at best Trump or the US will use Alberta to spearhead an invasion of the North for their critical mineral

If Alberta becomes the 51st state, all the Newfies will head home leaving a large labour shortage in the oil fields. Being an American state, Alberta will have to follow American immigration practices. It would be a real shock for people in Alberta. Lots of Americans would flood in and take Albertians' jobs, just by the shear volume of people in the States, they have almost 350million people.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Back in the day Civilization had a scenario where the US was supporting Quebec in a war of independence.

Alberta sounds a lot more likely.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

USA funded Brexit, USA funded the fucker kkklownvoy, USA is funding Alberta “separatism”.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 8 points 3 days ago

When one of the people being interviewed leads the Republican Party of Alberta, it's hard to believe they're anything but American shills. But there will be Albertans who think it was purely a coincidence that led to such a catchy name.

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Alberta screwed themselves when they rejected national energy program that would have cost them some provincial control in exchange for building Canadian energy self sufficiency. They would have pipelines crisscrossing Canada and refineries to boot to get 'their' oil to. However they were hoodwinked by US corporate interest into rejecting the NEP and they have been taken advantage of by those same corporate interests ever since. Along with that the Alberta government has spend every waking moment blaming Ottawa. No AB sales tax to even out cyclical O&G revenues? Ottawa's fault, somehow. Not enough environmental deposits to clean up after the O&G company has taken all the profits it wants and offshored them? Ottawa's fault. No refineries? US extraction companies want to refine in US and close Canadian sites, Ottawa's fault. Petro Canada. Short sightedly sold by Conservatives. Was Ottawa's fault but at the behest of Alberta.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Sounds like Texas with their stupid separate energy grid that crashes all the fucking time and causes old people to die. Maybe they can both secede at the same time and start their own country.

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[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Learn from us in the United States and remove these cancerous traitors from your country NOW. Preserve your education and REGULATE BUSINESS AND TECH.

If you fail to do this. You too will have concentration camps and data centers all over your country and fascist traitors in charge

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago (16 children)

In 2021, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation pegged Albertans’ contribution to equalization as $650 per capita.

Lol. Lmao even.

Let's risk a very unclear future, sold to us by utopian libertarians over $650 per person.

I'm Albertan. I'm also quite Liberal, so kind of rare in these parts.

Anyway, I just can't wrap my head around the logic of the separatist have. Cut off ALL federal programs. Make your own programs, which is more than likely going to be blindingly more expensive due inefficiencies in starting from scratch. Cut all income tax (are you stupid?). Institute PST, something that is political sepukku in Alberta. Oh. And don't forget to base your economy on a marginal product, with no access to foreign markets, whose commodity prices are controlled by a cartel.

Get the fuck out, and come back to me with some valid logic

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[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (8 children)

So, if Alberta reaches the promised land of glorious independence or whatever, how exactly do they plan on trading outside their borders without being taxed to oblivion by one of two much larger bordering nations any time we try to get resources in or out?

[–] ElegantBeef@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you believe the APP's website they want to use the UN's 'Law of the Sea', but they also don't want to be a part of the UN cause they do not share values. So seemingly they think they can, they think they can.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Highly believable that a bunch of Albertans want to use Maritime law in a land locked province.

[–] ElegantBeef@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That convention does guarantee access to trade corridors for landlocked nations, though as the separatists do not want to join the UN I'd be interested in seeing how they think they'd benefit.

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[–] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Howndoes any landlocked countries do it?

San Marino seems pretty prosperous

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

San Marino is completely dependent on Italy. People go to Italy for specialist appointments, to shop as the stores in San Marino don't have much selection - they go to Italy to attend university etc. Not a great example. (Andorra is a bit better of an example but they also heavily rely on Spain and less so France)

[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Alberta separating would rely entirely on the good will of Canada or the US, one of which we'd have just ripped a chunk out of their country and been a huge pain in the ass... and the other has voiced interest in annexing us and has been threatening their supposed allies across the board. Walking headfirst into that doesn't seem smarter than trying to figure things out within from Canada.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The thing that really gets me is, Alberta doesn't like how hard it is to build a pipeline that would run into other provinces, and how in the world is being a separate country supposed to help with that? Do they think building across an international border will be easier than building across an interprovincial one?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Can we use "separatists" instead of "albertans"?

The loudmouth morons are a very small percentage of Albertans. A lot smaller than Quebec's loudmouth morons.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My Albertan friends are natives. And I am pretty sure they don't want to separate. It is only the white non-native conservatives there that mostly want to separate.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Actually, it isn't even most of them. I live in rural AB, there's a lot of anger over the separatists shitting on the legacy of our grandparents that fought and died for Canada.

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[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Alberta separatists are illogical and unwise - never underestimate the depths to which they have not thought about a particular issue. Unfortunately, this is equally true of the current provincial government as well.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

I doubt they do much thinking

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[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Carney needs to start a loud public investigation into foreign money. Expose these jerks.

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago

... Cameron Davies is the leader of the Republican Party of Alberta

Jfc. :/

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

“Honestly, I hate this country right now. If I could leave, I would.”

Darling, If I could throw you out, I would.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So is like Alberta the Mississippi of Canada?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's more like the Texas of Canada.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I can imagine a mass exodus too. I live here. I'd rather be homeless and jobless made destitute with a mortgage on a made worthless house than American.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

trade Alberta for Washington, Oregon, and California

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Some sane people live in Alberta, so no we wont be doing that.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

And Minnesota! I'd much rather be Canadian

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I think, if you don't like where you live, you should move, but you can't take your land with you. I also think, if you don't care about separation but push the agenda just to entangle yourself with powerful cabals above and beyond your reach, should be a special kind of treason.

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