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Major Blow to Denuvo Because Pirates Just Ran Out of Games to Bypass as of April 2026 (respawnfirst.com)
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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago

I have been waiting for SEGA to make Persona 5 and SMT 5 DRM-free for many years now. IIRC, Persona 5 Royal was $10 a week ago...but still DRM'ed.

Fuck it. I might as well just pirate these things and not give SEGA a dime. They clearly don't want my money, nor respect my desire to be free of rootkits, restrictions, or surveillance. I just want to buy my games and play. πŸ˜’

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

why do people still play/buy games with Denuvo,it reduces your fps anyways.
maybe Denuvo is as bad as Kernel level anticheat.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Because modern gaming community believes in ultra-consumerism. "Just buy a $3000 PC to run your $70 AAAA games every 3 years like the rest of us."

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Don't forget the €8000 gaming chair, and €4000 custom made in-ear headphones.

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

And the EA game pass, so you can pay to own nothing.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 hours ago

agreed

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Says console bro who probably wasted $2k+ on a 4K TV. Gaming is a luxury in general if you want anything modern.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Ah you mix up. I am the potato pc bro.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'd guess most players aren't even aware. I play a lot of games (though probably none that have this stuff enabled) and before joining Lemmy I'd never even heard of Denuvo. The average user just buys a game and plays it.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 8 hours ago

yeah

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

Because hacker patches are untrustworthy, and may do far worse than lower your FPS, like install Bitcoin miners. I have also not seen reliable, well-documented, cross-game proof of the β€œlowers your FPS” claim. There have been cherry-picked claims that are often muddied with other patch work, as well as known poor implementations of Denuvo.

I want to support devs. I don’t want risks of malware. I don’t see any discernible issues when installing Denuvo games. I have never been given one salient, convincing argument about Denuvo being bad, just relentless downvotes.

I very much want to make an alternate /games community where whining about Denuvo is banned, not because I like such censorship, but because it seems to be the only way to chat with normal, nuanced people about new releases.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Fps isnt everything

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps. But getting worse fps by buying the official version is pretty silly.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago

But extremely important. I e.g. get headaches with anything below 80fps and would instantly refund. I'd rather lower quality than speed.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I certainly hope Denuvo steps on something pointy, but there's no way I'm installing an HV bypass on any machine.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 24 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

That shit does not run on Linux, so I guess I'm in luck. I bet Denuvo is doubling down and adding kernel level DRM to all games. Bit worried about what that means for Linux gaming, but I will survive. I've been on Linux for like a decade now, I won't install windows to play some silly games.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That shit does not run on Linux

Do you mean Denuvo games in general? Because that's not true

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

they mean the hypervisor bypass, which at the moment requires windows and turning off basically every security feature

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Playing it on a Windows VM on Linux with your GPU passed through is probably the safest way to play these hypervisor bypass games.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So, an OS that runs a HV that runs a HV that runs an OS that runs a translator that translates a windows-game to the original OS.

If you had told me that absurd shit 30yrs ago I would have laughed at you.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and all that to bypass, not remove, a protection mechanism that runs 100% in user space with no additional privileges. It really would be impressive if it wasn't so horrible for consumer rights and preservation.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It is...I always trusted pirates more than companies (I was a big player back in the days) but this is way too much. I just don't play these games now (thanks denuvo) and I surely won't play those hv-"cracks".

But...the worse thing is what denuvo will do now. Either they'll vanish or they'll step up by getting absolute total control kernel-side. I'd prefer vanishing. Why would anyone buy denuvo now if they don't react fast...

[–] upandatom@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

Agreed. I expect some money shifting where Denuvo goes down and another rises with kernel level. Ovuned. Kind of like how airlines and banks rename themselves.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What is hv bypass?

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

It's the bypass in question that falsifies validation data to the Denuvo DRM. It runs under the OS (Windows in this case), which gives it more permissions than your operating system itself. You have to disable a significant amount of your security, reboot, run your game with the HV bypass, reenable your security, reboot, and then you can use your PC normally again. Even if you trust the HV bypass software (and I don't personally think that's a good idea), you are still opening your machine up to attack. If you are perfect in your actions and very cautious you can minimize the risk, but slipping up could leave your PC compromised. It's just too much risk.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think it is fine if you install the games on a PC that

  • Doesnt contain any personal data and is only for playing PC games

  • Is never connected to a network, public or private (always offline)

Otherwise I wouldn't recommend ever installing HyperVisor, and if you do, wipe the drive and reinstall the OS. Maybe even better, wipe the drive, destroy it, and then replace it with a new drive. That is the best way to know for certain there is no security compromise on the drive.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Is never connected to a network, public or private (always offline)

99% of all modern games won't even start

[–] kevinsky@feddit.nl 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

In simpler terms you need to have an entirely dedicated isolated system to play these games on, at which point the economical option is undoubtedly just to buy the damn game...

Computers not connected to the internet are almost entirely useless for anything else, and computers that are connected to the internet are inevitably logged into to services, and being logged in to something automatically means there's personal data on it. If only credentials and authentication cookies.

Just stay away from this. Get a console of Denuvo freaks you out, or just stay away from these games untill they patch denuvo out, like you should anyway. The only reason they keep using Denuvo is that they aren't adequately punished for doing so. Gamers are notoriously bad at voting with their wallet.

[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 minutes ago

In simpler terms you need to have an entirely dedicated isolated system to play these games on

This. I happen to have a second system cobbled together out of my older PC parts, and it's kind of oxymoronic to use for HV-bypass because it's hooked up to a 4k TV and struggles to keep up with these new releases.

The main function of this secondary PC has become to test improvements to upscaling and frame generation (i.e. 1080p 30Hz upscaled/framegenned to 4k 60Hz), which has been fun in its own right, but is faaar from ideal.

That being said, the FSR4 INT8 modded dll running on RDNA2 + Lossless Scaling variable FG is incredibly impressive for this task. Pragmata can be played on this TV relatively smoothly, and with passable amounts of artifacting. I certainly can't suggest this setup as a good experience for anyone, though.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Huh. I guess they'll play the games now?

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 115 points 1 day ago (10 children)

No play, only download

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Ugh, if I have to.

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[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I played RE9 recently thanks to voices38 crack.

Even the achievements were working, insane experience for something pirated.

It's not the same convenience of Steam, but you can achieve similar:

  • I used a PowerShell script with rclone + Ludosavi backup to backup all my game saves periodically.
  • Add to Steam as non-Steam game to get controller support, screenshot and recording features.
  • And Hydra launcher (or Achievement Watcher) to save my played hours and get achievements notifications.

Pro: You actually own your data instead of Steam owing it. All tools are open source and you can backup the database files.
Cons: Less convenience.

Already 100% all achievements.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I also played voices38’s RE9, was great until raccoon city, then performance became unplayable, even on low settings. Quite a shame, I don’t think I can finish it.

[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

For me only the RPD was having massive FPS drops, I was getting 20FPS, but there's no big fight there so it was playable.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 3 points 9 hours ago

If you have a server to Self Host stuff, you can also use Gamevault. It's like steam but Selfhost. You can Backup your Save Files onto your Server (you need to modify the Open Source Client for that, otherwise it's behind a Paywall.) It tracks your Playtime. You can install .7zip files, iso's and gog games very simple. You can also see what your friends are playing, if you share your Server.

I also love it to collect fan games in it like PokeMMO, Mario 64 PC Port etc.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Playing a game for free is not even remotely worth allowing a crack to have absolute root access, but maybe this will make companies reconsider whether it's worth paying for Denuvo. Probably not.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 11 points 21 hours ago

Is it better or worse than letting the game have absolute root access? Because that'll no doubt be what Denuvo goes with next...

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