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[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Normalize downvoting censor slop

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

last century was where all the bio, stem people got jobs, 2000s, much more difficult since the turn of the century, made worse by job sites.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 169 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The betrayal of generations from the 20th century against the future quality of life of humanity will be remembered for thousands of years.

That is not hyperbole, this period of human history is alone in its murderous intent to erase the human race and it can never be surpassed for if it does humanity will go extinct.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

Boomers lived through the easiest, most rewarding period of American history and immediately and repeatedly ensured that no cohort following them would ever have the same again.

As a group, they are the weakest, most selfish, and least adaptable generation in modern history.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

remembered for thousands of years.

Remembered by whom? Big assumption there...

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We'll now begin our unit on "the time the people who wanted to end the world got control of the world, and how that all happened in spite of them not even being fucking subtle about it."

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just call it the century of greed

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Greed can at least account for the future. The most powerful government in the world is lead by people who actually think wrecking the world for everyone else will help them reach paradise.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

we could call it the century of buttholes and you're going for greed? REAALLLY

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Butt holes have a positive function, I do not agree with being that kind to our centuries.

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very good point. It is a noble hole.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only reason "shit just works" for y'all is that noble hole!

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'll compromise

The century of greedy butthole

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's very interesting that the nukes dropped will be mentioned, but the real death toll of the century was plain simple greed and selfishness. Those two working together have and will kill countless more in the upcoming century

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, how disturbing is it that the dropping of the nuclear bombs on Japan will be most useful to historians not as a hyperbolic tragedy that stood alone but as a way to explain the much broader mass slaughter of humans that the 20th century perpetrated and locked in for thousands of years?

TBF the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was immediately preceded by far larger slaughters of humanity using more conventional methods, a fact which somewhat minimizes their significance. I'm referring mainly to the Holocaust and the Japanese genocide in China, but even the US firebombing of Tokyo in early 1945 exceeded the death tolls of the atomic bombings.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But how will we get more money to the shareholders if we stop pushing humanity towards extinction!?

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[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Are those generations really worse than those before it? Yes the environmental destruction is unparalleled but so were also the tools that enable that. In the Stone Age people could not have even come close to doing what we are doing right now to the environment even if they wanted too.

The term the tragedy of the commons originally referred to English cattle herders letting their cows overgraze public land because if they don't overgraze it some other herders would do it instead. Stories like this are everywhere in history. The Vikings cut down every single tree in Iceland and the Faroe islands when they arrived with no care for the environmental whatsoever.

Whaling, the clubbing of seals, the extinction of the dodo. There are countless examples. And if we are talking pure human to human cruelty, no war in the 20th century comes close to what the mongols did.

The people of the 20th century were not more cruel or selfish than previous ones. They were simply the first ones given the tools and ability to pollute the whole earth.

The real significance of the term "tragedy of the commons" was that it was part of a campaign of PR bullshit used to justify Enclosure, where wealthy elites seized common land as their private property, land that had in fact been used and managed effectively as a public resource for centuries prior.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are those generations really worse than those before it?

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The people of the 20th century were not more cruel or selfish than previous ones. They were simply the first ones given the tools and ability to pollute the whole earth.

Yes, that's what makes them worse.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I am uninterested in comparing the moral qualities of generations. Humans are humans.

I am interested in the scale of the violence done by these generations against the earth as it will never be able to be surpassed without fully annihilating the human race.

800 years from now no one is going to care how sorry everyone was now about the damage they have done, what matters is the impact and for the destructive impact generations such as Boomers have done to the earth they will be remembered for thousands of years as a calamity.

By the way the "Tragedy Of The Commons" has largely been discarded as a useful way of understanding societies, it is a political narrative with an interest in specific ideologies more than a serious tool to understand humanity.

https://boingboing.net/2019/03/07/scientific-fraud.html

As Mildenberger points out, this isn't a case where a terrible person had some great ideas that outlived them: Hardin's Tragedy of the Commons was a piece of intellectual fraud committed in service to his racist, eugenicist ideology.

What's worse: the environmental movement elevates Hardin to sainthood, whitewashing his racism and celebrating "The Tragedy of the Commons" as a seminal work of environmental literature. But Hardin is no friend of the environment: his noxious cocktail of racism and false history are used to move public lands into private ownership or stewardship, (literally) paving the way for devastating exploitation of those lands.

By contrast, consider Nobelist Elinor Ostrom's Governing the Commons, whose groundbreaking insights on the management of common resources are a prescription for a better, more prosperous, more egalitarian future.

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(Hardin quotes that didn't make it into his seminal paper: "Diversity is the opposite of unity, and unity is a prime requirement for national survival" and "My position is that this idea of a multiethnic society is a disaster…we should restrict immigration for that reason.")

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I did not know the history of the term tragedy of the commons. Thanks for educating me on that, I will now reconsider using that specific term in the future. However overgrazing is a real issue historically and still today. Overgrazing in the modern Sahel is a great contributor to the advancing of the sahara for example.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Oh definitely, my issue with the concept of the Tragedy Of The Commons is not that shared wealth is not vulnerable but rather that the idea that humans innately cannot function in an environment while preserving and growing a shared commons without some kind of system of authoritarian control and violence actively preserving that shared commons is a deeply political, problematic and scientifically incorrect way of understanding people.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

we're really just starting to feel the ramifications of the industrial age, we will not be the villains because at least we did try to do something. the robber barons are the true villains in this. they created annd exasperated the problem while creating the race to riches that continues with the oil industry ignoring the problems they create

the early years of just pumping coal exhaust from factories, acid rain from uncontrolled diesel fuel burning and the nuclear waste buildup will compound to create a truly ugly mess.

The Handford Nuclear Reservation in Washington State is 586 square miles that is fucked for thousands of years. even if we find a clean way to power the world. It will keep polluting the Columbia River and the Pacific Ocean for much of this time and the Federal Government keeps cutting funding for the cleanup.

in my opinion, the whole world needs to help South Americans restore the Amazon and we in North America need to develop a solution to the Pine Beetle, or start planting invasive trees to take over when they destroy all the pine forests. It should be every humans roll to plant a tree once a year. If we cared more about plant life, we'd make a huge impact now

We also need to find leaders who will embrace wind and solar as our future and tax the fuck out of carbon based energy

we can find ways to slow and possibly even reverse this process but unfortunately the current powers that be don't give a fuck

when the oceans start consuming the big coastal cities, only then will it become a priority

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago

While your sentiment is in the right place, trees are not a one size fits all solution. There's a variety of ecosystems on this planet, and not all are densely packed forest. Instead of everybody just planting a tree, it's important to think about what kind of tree and if a tree would be beneficial at all. Sometimes planting a native grass would be a lot more beneficial in a specific context.

One other thing is that the places where pine beetles are the most destructive are monocrop pine forests. If you have diversity in your forests, it makes them more resillent to this kind of thing.

It should be every human's role to learn about how their local ecosystem works and how to exist within it in a reciprocal way.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago

when the oceans start consuming the big coastal cities, only then will it become a priority

Miami begs to differ lol, not that I can blame Miami, they are fucked anyways since everything is built on limestone which is very soluble to water... but I wish they would do their whole "stick their head in the sand" thing in a way that was less destructive to the rest of us.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Now our advertisement overlords won't be pleased.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The word is fuck. Cannot process anything else about this post.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I’m also like this. The one stupid annoying detail just getting bigger and bigger on the screen and everything else fading away.

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But isn't finding out their job?

[–] Ogy@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We found out ages ago, told everyone, and no-one did anything

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

That movie was criticized because it was on the nose, but if there's one thing the last 20 years has thought me its that there may have been a time for subtle implications, subtext, and understatement, but it's long over.

If you aren't screaming it, they won't hear you and even if they hear you they won't do anything...

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

People who don't like to think or be told they're wrong are convinced their stupidity is equal or greater than facts and logic.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

I think thats part of the joke, they know enough to confirm it.

[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

how the fuck was a century with 2 world wars, the cold war, iron curtain etc. a fuck around century

[–] Ogy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because exactly those things you describe (as well as some other factors/events) were reckless, violent experimenting (ideological, military, technological). And now we're finding out. Like I'm not sure if you're aware but the world changed ridiculously fast during the 1900s and now the early 2000s compared to the rest of history.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They burned coal like crazy in 19th century, killed all the whales, soaked everything in mercury, genocide was the name of the game.

[–] baines@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

easy, google

wet bulb temps not supportive of human life

everything else short of the cold war nuke apoc is lol and at least that had the option of not happening

we’re already in a positive feedback loop

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

America invented income tax in that century to tax the rich, before that it didn't exist. Low end was taxed little, anything over $500k was given to the country. Now it robs everyone but the rich. Also, for some reason they structured it so citizen->country->state rather than citizen->state->country (I believe the EU is structured in the latter) yet nobody has questioned this terrible error. An American citizen can't skip paying Federal taxes, as they are imprisoned. Even though debtors prisons America purports to not have. Yet when their own Federal government destroys their state via many means, they can't do anything about it as an individual.

America sat around while Nazis and their prequel happened, thought about doing it. Set up a honeypot for Japan to attack Hawaii, then "saved" the world, made movies about it for decades. The hero that did nothing until we found it convenient.

America pushed nuclear power so hard as it would revolutionize everything...in the 1950s era. We wouldn't have to be so desperate for "efficiency" if inefficient processes like resistive heat, electrolysis, and other things to generate things we need were throwaway bonuses. Power bills would be a thing of the past, every energy bill would be, natural gas, fracking, etc. would be unnecessary. Nuclear power would be safer than it already now is. They inflated the bad incidents like 3 mile island, and enlisted the Simpsons to poison a generation. (Hopefully people pick up that the Simpsons bit was a joke, ish.) Even ozone-destroying chemicals (theoretically) could have been reduced because the refrigerants used in every heating or cooling pump could have just been Peltier devices instead of a chemical. At scale, massively inefficient. Unlimited power? Why not?

America liked oil like it was crack and decided that was the better choice. We needed to fund airlines and cars. Backed by taxpayer-funded airports and roads. Move over trains, we have a bigger way to delete your money.

So, tl;dr, omitting a lot of details that could span a week of typing, we in the FO part now dawg.

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

So close to getting it right with Merman Heckville

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