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Well, Mossad and also their tech companies (very slight difference there lol) are actually very good, so we have to buy spyware from them like palantir or else we can't intrusively peer into the lives of everyone on earth on a mass scale, and Mossad also just happens to have pedobytes (pun intended) of video data showing our leaders fucking children on some random island totally random yes so they're able to blackmail the US into being their little bitch. That's it.

The US is a global arms manufacturer with a democracy attached, if there wasn't an Israel to prop up the US would find something similar and arm it to the hilt.

The ~~US~~ Military Industrial Complex gets to remind everyone why it's a superpower, it gets to make and sell it's weapons, survialiance tech, etc, it keeps it's opponents weak and desperate but armed such that there is always fear to keep selling the forever war (both to the US, but also ton Israelis (and to a lesser extent to Jewish people living elsewhere)), by political maneuvering it gets to police feespeach.

liberals/conservatives get to feel like they are not racist because they support a minority led country, who many don't consider white in that context.

If it wasn't Israel it could be a different proxy state in the middle East or maybe Africa/Asia.

IMO it has very little to do with Jewishness and a lot more to do with geopolitics, yes they use the Holocaust for propoganda 🤢, but they don't give a fuck about Holocaust survivors. Also and this is small compared to committing genocide, but they've redefined the Holocaust to exclude all of the non-jewish victims which were historically included as recently as a decade ago in common usage of the term (e.g what I learnt in school, what was on Wikipedia, etc)

The Suez Crisis was the last major diplomatic action that the USA took against Israel, with the USA using its ownership of British and French debt to keep the Suez Canal Egyptian. After that, Israel invested a lot help shape the perception of Israel to Americans and invested in several pro-Israeli candidates in both parties through AIPAC and other means. It worked well.

Well, Mossad and also their tech companies (very slight difference there lol) are actually very good, so we have to buy spyware from them like palantir or else we can't intrusively peer into the lives of everyone on earth on a mass scale, and Mossad also just happens to have pedobytes (pun intended) of video data showing our leaders fucking children on some random island totally random yes so they're able to blackmail the US into being their little bitch. That's it.

There is three groups that guarantee support for Israel the imperialist side who have Israel as an ally to keep control on resources and trade routes. There is the evangelical side who believe the rapture would happen once Israel have total dominance on the region and finally just people who get the money from the lobbies to get in position of power and express dominance .

American are copping when they only focus on the evangelic because they refuse to acknowledge that the USA was always imperialist . People have tendency of wanting to be proud of their countries

USA has a large population of Jews. Not all are zionists, in fact there have been many anti-zionist Jews protesting against Israel's genocide of Palestinians. However, some are zionists. Some Jews see Israel as a backup plan - if shit goes south in the USA they can always flee there.

USA has a lot of evangelical Christians. Somehow (it's not in the Bible) they have convinced themselves that a Jewish return to the Holy Land is necessary before the end of the world happens. Which they want to happen, because they believe they are the good guys and will go to heaven.

USA has a lot of racists. They see Israel as an ethnostate, they like that and support it. Their hatred of brown people is stronger than their hatred of Jews so they are happy to see Israel oppress Palestinians.

USA also has anti-semites who are glad to see a place exist where Jews "should" go to. And they are ecstatic that Israel's genocide of Palestinians is igniting a new wave of anti-semitism.

Many Americans also see Israel as the only democracy in the middle east. It isn't a democracy, of course, since it has de facto control over Palestine and therefore a huge population is disenfranchised. But wait - rights only for a certain group of people, oppression for the rest - that's like America when it was "great" (ie pre-Civil Rights era) and they want America "great again".

AIPAC political donations to lawmakers and politicians. They're the second largest lobby contributor and influence politicians for Israel.

They're responsible for promoting the idea behind the Evangelical salvation end days propaganda that induces people to think a war in Israel will bring on apocalypse and rapture.

Evangelicals and the Left Behind theory.

I think it is the religious end of things; by that the Americans can tell themselves they are protecting god’s chosen people. So in a way they are doing god’s will.

Also money talks and the isreali lobby has lots of it.

Vrillium covered this really well. Explains the pipeline from Jewish summer camps to AIPAC Congressional handler.

https://youtu.be/ETzvmLZN9go

My dad is in his 80’s and has been an atheist and hardcore liberal democrat for most of his life. The only political subject we’ve ever seriously butted heads on is Israel.

The last time we argued about it, his position was basically that, as a state, it had the right to defend itself from all the “hostile” countries around it. According to him, it even has the right to expand outward to protect itself by creating buffer zones. If Palestinians didn’t want their innocent children bombed to bits, all they needed to do was renounce Hezbollah and/or leave the area entirely.

I was pretty dumbfounded hearing him say this. He’s an avid reader and total history nerd, so to hear him hand-waving genocide was pretty shocking to me. I think it comes from growing up a boomer and a lifetime of deep-seated indoctrination that painted post-WW2 Jews as forever the good guy victims who are just struggling to recover from the atrocities of the past. A mindset that people born in the 70s, 80s, (and so on) just can’t relate to.

I know that doesn’t exactly answer your question, but I wrote this out as much for me as for you. I love my dad and he’s an extremely good person, so it’s pretty shocking for me to have this huge wedge issue between us. If he could learn to separate Jewish people from the state of Israel, he might understand, but frankly, at his age, I doubt he’ll ever come around.

The politicians are into it for the campaign donations.

The average citizen supports it because they generally still have a post-WWII mindset and are resistant to criticisms of Israel and conflate anti-Israeli sentiment with antisemitism which Israel encourages.

Evangelical Christians are a big part of that. Check out TBN, an evangelical fox type network, to get a wiff of what they are on about.

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Particularly the new/talk segments. Don't do it if you're mental health is bad.

It's a friendly nation in an area where those are scarce, so being able to base military operations out of there is seen as a key strategic asset.

Not defending, just explaining.

AIPAC gives money to politicians, Epstein gathers dirt on rich people and politicians- politicians now have to do whatever they are told by Israel. citizens United accelerated this by making it easier to just bribe (sorry “give donations”) politicians than using pedophile honeypots to gain influence

The region is still very important from a geopolitical standpoint. As last months oil prices have shown.

Israel don't have (m)any friends in the region. They are a reasonably stable democracy. This makes them a dependable ally. What would happen if there was a revolution in Saudi Arabia for example? Probably something similar to Iran 1979.

So having Israel as an ally is a huge multiplier in power projection in the region.

Why do you need to project power when it's so expensive? It's sort of what superpowers do. Meddle in the affairs of smaller countries to further their own goals. If not the US then Russia or China.

There are obviously a lot of reasons - one I haven't seen mentioned here yet is that they're our only real ally in the region and the best spies in the world; a combination that makes them incredibly attractive as "strategic partners" if the goal is to influence politics in a region you have very little other indirect methods of manipulating.

They've worked damned hard to make sure they're in that position, too. Being invaluable to maintaining US influence in the middle east is the reason the US backs them militarily, and without that backing they'd get absolutely flattened by their neighbors. Thus the toxic symbiotic relationship you see today, with massive campaign contributions and influence operations from both sides designed to ensure they don't ever lose that mutual support.