ArcaneSlime

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I just believe that wanting widespread use while being against simplification/abstraction is an incompatible view.

And I believe people should be able/willing to learn if they want to adopt a new system, especially one that allows so much freedom the standardization you seek is antithetical to it's entire ethos. Just by the existence of both KDE and GNOME you're already "abstracting" things and making it "more difficult" than "you will suck Microsoft's one DE and like it," and that's just two of the DEs to choose, you'd rather there only be GNOME "because it's simpler and will help new people learn?" Well too bad, I like KDE and I like that you're free to choose GNOME. "Thinking people should switch from X to Y is incompatible unless you make Y as much like X as possible," isn't it, we're saying "X is bad, Y is better, try doing things Y's way." Making X like Y isn't "doing it Y's way," it's just windows with extra steps.

That's true, but not all learning is equal.

And not all people learn the same way, you need the pretty pictures, some don't.

whether you're in Japan or in the US, you know a trashcan is somewhere you discard stuff,

Sure, but beyond the trash icon, if you have to compress a file (or do like 99% of things including switch system languages), using the GUI doesn't help if your computer is stuck in Japanese. C'mon dude, Kanji is random symbols regardless of if you're in GUI or CLI, absoLUTELY not independant of language, even Romanji you'd be fucked and you know it.

(or whoever ykwim)

(or whoever ykwim)

And my experience was mildly negative,

Read: it isn't for me

most of my friends prefer Linux

Read: It's me not linux

People love learning and are constantly seeking new things to learn

some

People just would rather learn out of passion than necessity.

Well tbh, welcome to the real world, sometimes you "need" to learn some shit. And if you decide you "need" control over your laptop and to break the shackles of Microsoft without spending $45000 to trade Microsoft's spyware for apple's, then you "need" to learn how to use Linux or BSD, because short of TempleOS that's all that's left. Sucks bro, is what it is.

For a lot of people the computer is nothing more than a medium to do what they want,

Most people never touch anything bigger than their phone outside of work. Let em. If they want freedom they can always choose to learn, they can, they just don't want to.

they don't care about how it works, nor do they want to learn

Hey that's my line. And they barely need to know "how it works," they don't know "how windows works," half of them don't even know what the registry is even if they've used CMD before (looks an awful lot like CLI now that we're mentioning it, and gParted, the GNOME GUI tool, works a lot better than diskpart I'll tell you what) yet they use it just fine. They just need to be able to get by, same as purty-gui'd windows.

Btw, it's fine if Linux just stays being a niche OS for programmers and tech enthusiasts,

Hell it isn't if you're not scared, I know rednecks in trailers and grandmas that use it.

I just find it annoying how every time people point out that Linux and its communities can be newb unfriendly

That's fair, I bet they are unfriendly when you show up saying "linux sucks I don't want to learn make it work" which I for some reason feel probably describes you fairly well. They were always nice to me (short of literally one user on c/linux.ml, chef_koch, but he was banned 4y ago), probably because I was approaching it with a better attitude and a willingness to learn rather than animosity, but who knows.

No the newbs are just too lazy

Some are, you are. I was never told that as a noob showing a willingness to learn. Perhaps this problem is not divorced from "you." "If you meet 5 assholes in a day, maybe you're the asshole."

Lastly, I just like to point out that in this thread OP said GUI are more intuitive, to which you...

And plenty of people learn to garden. Gardening isn't for everyone. Stick to your iphone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Was I being hyperbolic for humor? Sure. But so were you (I hope ffs) comparing learning a few commands to becoming a mechanic lol.

We're going to have to agree to disagree that having to learn how linux works to run linux is necessarily a problem. It's been so long since I used windows now (last was w10, not like 98, still been a few years) that now I find windows harder to use than linux cli, even with its fancy schmansy GUI. I've never used apple or iPhone, so I know fuck all about macOS and the few times I've had to touch an iPhone I literally say "ugh what the fuck is this thing, hey [friend, iPhone owner], can you make this thing do the youtube for me," but that's because I'm too lazy to learn the UI (because I don't want to, because walled garden so I only use it on those rare occasions and would never buy one, but I digress), "learning" is intrinsic to "new thing," not just "linux cli." You're (or whoever ykwim) just not willing to do the work to switch to "new thing," and that's fine, it's not for you (of course Microsoft will hide the control panel you're used to and make you learn a new gui way to change some setting that they keep changing back every update, for instance, but at least it's incremental I suppose.) But not everything has to be for everyone, all is good! But it isn't because "linux hard" nor "cli bad" nor "they are too fucking dumb to learn a few commands," it's because they don't want to, people want what is familiar and many think they're done learning the second school ends.

I also barely have to touch the CLI btw (except I choose to all the time because it's so convenient, but I don't have to,) I could usually use the GUI, and often do for other things that are more convenient that way. Ymmv.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it btw, being a mechanic is more analogous to working with hardware, like building a gaming rig or something. Learning an OS is more like learning how to operate that hardware. At most, you're used to automatic, you don't want to learn how to drive stick, but it's not that much harder, you can, you just don't want to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

It was posted in this very community, feel free to find it. Probably can search Charlie Hebdo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You need the CLI more on average using linux, but many people can still get by without it. Tbh I thought I'd need it more so I learned the absolute basics it, and then it turned out I only "need" it rarely when I'm trying to do something weird or something that should be working isn't, but I end up using it all the time because it's just so convenient! And I learned more as I went along. Then I learned how to write basic scripts to automate stuff I wanted it to do by just chaining some of those commands together in a file, which was even more convenient. Honestly now Windows GUI is more difficult to me, I can't just type "yo do this shit" I have to click 4000 different things.

But yeah, adobe locks you in to windows anyway, dualboot ftw! Good luck on your journey!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Sure, but then so is saying "the french aren't that bad."

The part that is weird (and that I'm surprised a frenchman supports) is the part where wishing death on the french is not banned but saying "hey we shouldn't be making death wishes against the french" in response to "more mass shootings in france please" is banned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Tbf, of course it is better to understand what those commands do too, but it always starts there! (And maybe a youtube tutorial or two for cd, ls, pwd, history, etc.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Sorry lol, my mistake!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I'm sorry, please respond more coherently as to why you support someone saying "the french deserve 1000 mass shootings" not being banned and people saying "that's fucked up french people are ok" being banned. I realize your first language is probably french, which makes your stance all the more confusing, so I'm not attempting to denigrate you for mistakes, but the above comment is near incomprehensible and to accurately respond I'd need to understand it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

"Still true" lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Man that sounds an awful lot like learning, but couldn't be, because learning is not possible!

Just give up and exclusively use iPhones lol, they're easier.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Their comment wasn't banned, and comments that called them out were, the instance is complicit whether you like it or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
 

New list is up! Let's see here..

Let This One Be A Devil #2 - Still sleeping on #1 but I'm sold, it's James Tinyon (or however he spells it) and it's about the Jersey Devil.

Hyde Street #5 - Missing #4, need that one too.

Lucky Devils #3 - I've been loving this so far, two punk devils upending their corporate hellstructure.

Cruel Kingdom #4 - missing #3... I love my shop but they've been having some issues getting things..

Well that's it for me, what're you guys pulling this week?

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Weird bug? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I just ran into the weirdest bug using meshtastic, I don't even know where to start searching for answers so I figured I'd see if anyone here had any ideas.

So, I'm using a t1000e in pocket/on the go and a heltec v3 in a window upstairs. Both are connected to MQTT on a local channel [State Redacted]Mesh. I've been home for a few hours now and neglected to switch from the t1000e to the V3, TX and RX the whole time from the t1000e. I just noticed and said "ah let me turn off the pocket and switch to the home node," switched over, and all the messages sent hours ago doubled up and got reposted to the mesh somehow just from switching nodes. I know this because the second I switched the room's bot posted a joke, and last person to call !joke was me, 7h ago, and when I commented on it someone said "yeah you just reposted something you said hours ago."

What the hell?! Any ideas? Problem started today afaik, haven't changed any settings. I don't want to spam the SRMesh with hours old messages for no reason lmao. I do not have store and forward on.

Edit: Forgot about this part!

The other weird thing is if I hit traceroute on someone from the SRMesh, nothing happens (but it should be "direct," because "mqtt"), I can do a bunch of them and nothing, but then when I switch nodes and back again all the traceroute windows pop up at once like 1998 popups. WAT.

Edit again: Guy in the mesh said "I had some weird shit going on once, not exactly this, but try deleting the app cache."

It worked. Didn't even have to delete storage.

Edit No. what, 3?: Spoke too soon, it's back, and it isn't just me. Turned off MQTT on all but one node, whatever.

 

Sorry I'm late lol, was sick as hell yesterday! New list is up, some good shit this week!

From The World Of Minor Threats The Brood #4 - Minor Threats always rules, I think I missed the other new one, I can't remember the name though.

Into The Unbeing Part Two #2 - definitely missed #1, part one was pretty weird, I'll continue it if In can without going online.

Falling In Love On The Path To Hell #7 - YES

Lucky Devils #3 - Just read the first two, I'm in. Two Devils (not the devil) upending their corporate underworld's structure. This shit is right up my alley.

 

New list is up! Really short for me this week it seems, just one:

Sacrificers #15 - I'm still loving this series!

Well that's it lol. What're you pulling?

 

From The World Of Minor Threats Welcome To Twilight #1 - More Minor Threats, not the OGs but so far it's all good, so I'm in. The world itself it just so neat, I want to know more about the city itself almost more than its "notable" inhabitants. I want to know about the day to day, see some background on stuff only mentioned or hinted at, it's just so neat!

Defiant #1 - Looks ok, but "for fans of Dune, Firefly.." well that is me, so I'll grab it.

Assorted Crisis Events #1 - Weird time travel shit, could be neat!

Geiger #12 - Still going

Hive #2 - Yeesh I should read #1 tomorrow...

Moon Is Following Us #7 - behind on it but still picking them up.

Well that's it for me, what're y'all pulling?

 

New list is up! Short one for me this week it seems

Hyde Street #4 - My favorite Ghost Machine title so far.

Cruel Kingdom #3 - Might have missed #2, but #1 was good!

That's it lol, what are you grabbing this week?

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Unrecognized nodes? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Got my first two devices on tuesday and I've been traveling around with them! Seems the t114 has much better range but is a less convenient package of course (and damn amazon didn't ship my GPS module, so now that is on the way with an upgraded antenna and a heltec v3 cause why not?)

I've been able to make a few connections, but I had a couple questions about some of them.

I've been able to connect to a few nodes around town, even got one reply, but there seems to be two categories of nodes, some "recognized" and some "unrecognized." Does anyone know why that could be? Can I still talk to them if they're unrecognized, and/or do they still route packets? Can I fix that or do the other nodes' owners have to?

Glad I finally got into it, been having fun and apparently my area has some activity (even if I'm in a deadzone at the bottom of a hill for now.)

Edit: Ok I keep forgetting about redlib so I think I don't have access to Ye Olde Country because VPN and I refuse all apps, but I just remembered and searched there! So if anyone else has this question like me it seems that:

Simply not enought packets have arrived to get that info

No nodeinfo received. Either wait longer or request user info manually.

And

These appear to be running an older version of the meshtastic firmware [pre-2.5] which likely do not have an updated public key.

 

New list is up! Short one for me, which is fine because instead of picking up last week I got into meshtastic and let my comics sit in my box lol. Let's see..

Toxic Avenger #5 - The End. Was better than it should have been!

Black Hammer Spiral City #4 - Mantis P.I. has been good so far.

Warm Fusion #2 - I think I missed #1?

Space Ghost #10 - Behind as hell but still picking them up.

Well that's it for me, what're you pulling?

 

Hey everyone, I hope this is ok to post here! I've been putting off getting into meshtastic for a while now but the time has come to play around with it. I have done some research but I always like to talk to real people if possible for real world advice and experience, not just youtube salesman and AI top ten lists. I have minimal experience with radio, but some.

As to meshtastic the research I've done has pointed me to a few LoRa boards, the heltec t114 v2, and the Lilygo t-beam, and also the Lilygo T-deck plus.

I really would love to have a phoneless standalone set up, but have seen some stuff about the T-deck lacking good firmware and so it isn't "ready," but then I've seen some people say to the contrary that some good firmware exists now. Are there other better phoneless devices for meshtastic? Is the t-deck good enough now that I could pick that up now and add some t114s later to expand the network? Or should I go with a couple t114s, and wait til phoneless matures a little?

As for the phone using set ups, are there other boards I should look at instead of the t114 and the t-beam? I do require either it to come with a case or have available .stl files to print one, I suck at CAD.

My final questions are to the antennas, is there an antenna manufacturer that is commonly recommended for meshtastics (915 khz), and am I looking for SMA female or SMA male connectors on the antenna, or does that depend on the board in question? I tried searching the product page for the heltec board and SMA isn't mentioned anywhere according to ctrl+f. I see some kits with an antenna on amazon, but they don't mention either and I'm sure I'll want to upgrade the dinky rubber ducky it comes with.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, double thanks if you responded, triple thanks if you have answers or any helpful links! I'm excited to be getting into the hobby here soon, and glad there's already a lemmy comm for it!

 

New list is up! Looks like a slimmer week for me thankfully

Eat Sleep Reap Repeat #1&2 - gonna have to special order these, looks fun though! Something about reaping souls, I've been sort of obsessed with the idea of multiple reapers having an agency of sorts and the office-like behavior therein since The Mighty Boosh's cab scene.

From The World Of Minor Threats The Brood #3 - You know me and my Minor Threats! Best superhero/villain series I've read so far, of course being that I'm not usually a fan of that stuff the competition is pretty slim, but still I'm not a fan generally but like this one, that's saying something!

Let This One Be A Devil #1 - Jersey Devil?! Let's fucking go. Dude also did one recently about Project Blue Book, I think me and this dude would get a long lol.

Herculoids #1 - ?!?!? Other people know this show?! I have to buy this to send to a friend, we used to get mega stoned and watch it lol.

Space Ghost #10 - I'm so behind..

w0rldtr33 #13 - Still haven't read 12 but it's on the "next" pile

I'm sure my shop will be delayed on some, but I'm fine with putting it off a little, I'm delayed anyway. Well that's it for me, what are you pulling?

 

List is up! I'm excited for some of these..

Into The Unbeing Part Two #1 - Liked the first run, I'll keep on it. Basic story, some people find a cave, but the cave might be somethings skull? Something...alive?

Creepshow In Love #1 - Creepshoooooow!

Geiger #11 - Dude honestly I'm about 4 behind on this

Hive #1 - "Mason Shaw is no one. A worker bee. All that changes when he crosses paths with a few stragglers trying to stay one step ahead of a queen with immense powers who is determined to control her hive no matter who she has to kill. Welcome to THE HIVE." Looks like it might be ok, I'll at least flip through it.

I Hate Fairyland #20 - The End of this one?

Moon Is Following Us #6 - The Continuation of this one.

That's it for me, what're you pulling?

 

New list is up!

Frankenstein New World The Sea Of Forever #1 - Anything Mike Mignola I'm down for

Batman Off-World #6 - Wait this is still running? Ok I'm already down for it.

Sacrificers #14 - This series still rules

Cruel Kingdom #2 - Shit I still haven't read the last one.

Short one for me but that's ok because I had to grab 3 weeks worth at once last week since my shop has had issues with Diamond (I think.) What're you pulling?

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