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I'm sure the US isn't happy about anything that makes others less dependent on them.
And I really don't care.
They have given other countries a lot of very good reasons to extract ourselves from the US's influence.
The us turned their backs on the world, caused unnecessary strife, started wars, and are unhappy if other countries are not complicit? Just wait for a year or two, there is a new techno landscape on the horizon run by societal engineers, not profit motivators, whose only trick is to "capitalize". This power imbalance by the corps was never going to last forever.
then the US, like whomever wrote this opinion piece, has not read the details because every proposal so far benefits US tech giants… Carney has just made a fool of us all with this initiative
Countries like Canada cutting us off from their data is also good for those of us in the US under threat from our own government and corporations.
Our small business just bought a server and installed NextCloud on it. We're doing our part.
There's a killswitch scenario where a malicious US executive order shut off our civilization by banning Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Amazon from serving Canada. Almost every business would be immediately hamstrung and the economy would collapse in a week. This is too fucking dangerous.
That's great. But I work adjacent to the financial industry, and the govt is forcing that industry in the opposite direction. Payments Canada mandates all ATMs be on Windows. Regulators, even the provincial ones, effectively force mergers + cloud adoption, in part because our government regulators are all in the cloud and it's "easier" to integrate / less risk from their POV. Almost all your 'scanned' cheques, go through Microsoft's cloud.
Most banks use FISERV for their backend, which runs off an Oracle database -- both US companies. Some use Temenos, an EU company with all its development in India, and fully in US clouds. Big CUs like Vancity use Intellect Design for their Online banking, an Indian Headquartered company, with most of its developers in the UAE, running the application via Microsoft Cloud. Some orgs like First West use Veripark, an app so nested in MS cloud it can't be moved to another hyper scaler. The big banks are 100% captured.
Even many smaller "community" credit unions have these entanglements. There's only 1 CU in BC that I know of that uses a Canadian back end (made by a Canadian company, in Canada, with Canadian devs, hosted in a Canadian private cloud - runs on SUSE and postgres if I recall right). But even with them, they're stuck using services like Equifax which are entangled in US shit, because the gov/regulators view getting Credit Score information as more important than handing over people's personal information to the US. And even with that Canadian stack, they ain't growing -- they'll likely be killed off by regulators soon enough, forced to merge and send more data to the USA by govt decree. David Eby doesn't give a shit, nor does Carney. Hell, Carney was a bank regulator type, who basically pushed this shit forward. Guy basically dug our grave, and we're hoping he'll dig us out.
Long and short, it's great that your business is protecting itself, or trying to. But if all of Canada's critical industries are as captured as the financial sector, it won't really matter much what we do in other industries. If people can't pay for your businesses goods, because all of our digital payments go offline due to the US's interference, having a linux server won't save you.
The US can't be trusted anymore(?). No world superpower can be.
I have moved all my things off of US servers, minus the community I belong to on Discord. I still have a Facebook account but it is just sitting there I haven’t gotten to hitting the kill switch yet. I am almost totally off of Google, I finally have searXNG working properly, I may do more fiddling to make it better but it is good. I have scripts that send me news from topics I am interested in, from Canadian sources, twice a day. It is nifty what I have done.
I've deleted my Facebook account. I was making it seem a lot worse than it was. It's more peaceful having it gone.
I just don’t use it, I turned off the email address and I haven’t installed the apps anywhere. I actually don’t know that I have the email address anymore, I was using Apple’s hide my email thing but than the boycott started and I started cutting back services. I went to the max with email though, got myself a domain and a service provider that could host unlimited emails and started changing my email on every thing so now I get next to no spam.
If I do get spam I decide if I really need the account and if it is a yes I create a new address and close the old one. Because I like seeing what else I can do, today I found out my vaultwarden has a leak/pwnd detector.
The amount of compliments I get for deleting Facebook. It's like everyone applauds me.
For email, I had to go with a free provider because I don't want to be in a situation where I don't want to pay for a domain, and then lose my email in the process.
There is no such thing as free email, either you are the purchaser or you are the product! If you are the product bots are looking through your mail to send you and the sender ads. I am looking into self hosting my domain and email so that I am not relying on a third party to host it, but I do see your point about not wanting to loss an address.
I'm not so sure with TutaMail, ProtonMail, or other privacy or non-American are privacy invasive. The trade off from what I understanding is that get you less free space.
Did not know that they had free options. I have more than 200 email addresses that forward to 6 primary email addresses.
As I just commented on a post about European digital sovereignty:
American tech giants are a large portion of why the world is so terrible right now. Absolutely, unequivocally, fuck them.
Everyone has an idea.
US give it polish, form, marketability.
China build the thing. India programs it.
Nothing the US did is special. You don’t need us. Ditch us. We are hurting you.
Good. Surefire proof it's the right thing. Double down hard.
The U.S. doesn't seem to be happy about much lately.
I don’t remember the last time tbh
And another reason to support Canada joining the EU.
Economies of scale can make a huge difference in costs, and requiring all cloud services to be entirely domestic would greatly limit options and increase costs. If we can join the EU, then we'll be part of a big enough economic block to get full benefits from economies of scale and still retain data sovereignty within the context of membership.
Fuck US corporations, their lobbyists, the regulatory capture that leads to their anti-consumer laws, and trade agreements exporting their wealth-concentration laws globally. Disney, in particular, can get fucked with their life-of-creator-plus-90-years copyright terms. But I digress.
My vps is operated by an EU company, running on hardware in Montreal, powered entirely by Quebec's abundant hydroelectric grid. EU Canada all the way.
OVH? I have a dedicated server with them that has been running for nearly a decade. I also worked at their old office in Montreal as a customer advocate and visited the datacenter in Beauharnois. It was impressive and it must have grown quite a lot in a decade. Even back then they were trying to get the government to host its data with them.
Unfortunately they also raised their prices recently.
The only reason I can think of for Canada not to join the EU is the name. It sets my teeth on edge with the bad geography.
It's the Holy Roman Empire all over again! And, today, NATO includes countries which do not border the North Atlantic, including several which are entirely landlocked. Or, my favorite, the Big 10 Conference in the NCAA has a logo that looks like the number 16, and has 18 members.
Ow! Stop! My teeth!
Lol. Well that’s what happens when the US is run by idiots. A lesson that will set us back at least 50 years.
More power to you, Canada.
A lesson that will set us back at least 50 years.
At least.
US being quite emotional lately. Framing things as if they lost something. They should be thankful for what they have.
We don't give a shit if you like it or not.
Elbows up
The US can go pound sand.
As predicted by literally anyone paying attention to how the US operates for the benefit of its ruling class.
Oh no! Anyways….