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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Our small business just bought a server and installed NextCloud on it. We're doing our part.

There's a killswitch scenario where a malicious US executive order shut off our civilization by banning Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Amazon from serving Canada. Almost every business would be immediately hamstrung and the economy would collapse in a week. This is too fucking dangerous.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That's great. But I work adjacent to the financial industry, and the govt is forcing that industry in the opposite direction. Payments Canada mandates all ATMs be on Windows. Regulators, even the provincial ones, effectively force mergers + cloud adoption, in part because our government regulators are all in the cloud and it's "easier" to integrate / less risk from their POV. Almost all your 'scanned' cheques, go through Microsoft's cloud.

Most banks use FISERV for their backend, which runs off an Oracle database -- both US companies. Some use Temenos, an EU company with all its development in India, and fully in US clouds. Big CUs like Vancity use Intellect Design for their Online banking, an Indian Headquartered company, with most of its developers in the UAE, running the application via Microsoft Cloud. Some orgs like First West use Veripark, an app so nested in MS cloud it can't be moved to another hyper scaler. The big banks are 100% captured.

Even many smaller "community" credit unions have these entanglements. There's only 1 CU in BC that I know of that uses a Canadian back end (made by a Canadian company, in Canada, with Canadian devs, hosted in a Canadian private cloud - runs on SUSE and postgres if I recall right). But even with them, they're stuck using services like Equifax which are entangled in US shit, because the gov/regulators view getting Credit Score information as more important than handing over people's personal information to the US. And even with that Canadian stack, they ain't growing -- they'll likely be killed off by regulators soon enough, forced to merge and send more data to the USA by govt decree. David Eby doesn't give a shit, nor does Carney. Hell, Carney was a bank regulator type, who basically pushed this shit forward. Guy basically dug our grave, and we're hoping he'll dig us out.

Long and short, it's great that your business is protecting itself, or trying to. But if all of Canada's critical industries are as captured as the financial sector, it won't really matter much what we do in other industries. If people can't pay for your businesses goods, because all of our digital payments go offline due to the US's interference, having a linux server won't save you.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

The US can't be trusted anymore(?). No world superpower can be.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have moved all my things off of US servers, minus the community I belong to on Discord. I still have a Facebook account but it is just sitting there I haven’t gotten to hitting the kill switch yet. I am almost totally off of Google, I finally have searXNG working properly, I may do more fiddling to make it better but it is good. I have scripts that send me news from topics I am interested in, from Canadian sources, twice a day. It is nifty what I have done.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've deleted my Facebook account. I was making it seem a lot worse than it was. It's more peaceful having it gone.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I just don’t use it, I turned off the email address and I haven’t installed the apps anywhere. I actually don’t know that I have the email address anymore, I was using Apple’s hide my email thing but than the boycott started and I started cutting back services. I went to the max with email though, got myself a domain and a service provider that could host unlimited emails and started changing my email on every thing so now I get next to no spam.

If I do get spam I decide if I really need the account and if it is a yes I create a new address and close the old one. Because I like seeing what else I can do, today I found out my vaultwarden has a leak/pwnd detector.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The amount of compliments I get for deleting Facebook. It's like everyone applauds me.

For email, I had to go with a free provider because I don't want to be in a situation where I don't want to pay for a domain, and then lose my email in the process.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as free email, either you are the purchaser or you are the product! If you are the product bots are looking through your mail to send you and the sender ads. I am looking into self hosting my domain and email so that I am not relying on a third party to host it, but I do see your point about not wanting to loss an address.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not so sure with TutaMail, ProtonMail, or other privacy or non-American are privacy invasive. The trade off from what I understanding is that get you less free space.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Did not know that they had free options. I have more than 200 email addresses that forward to 6 primary email addresses.