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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't think fiscal cost is the best or only way to measure success or necessarily improvement of society's energy generation.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 hours ago
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess renewables are still cheaper.

At least personally and anecdotally, because it doesn't happen often, but it has happened more than once, that I have purchased electricity at negative prices due to overflow from renewables, which is a hell of lot cheaper than paying a tenth of a cent per kilowatt hour.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

no radioactive waste to deal with either.

and with solar, most of the hardware can be recycled now into new units; with a 20 year lifespan, that's going to pull thousands of kilowatts out of the sky, that'll do just fine.

https://www.pv-tech.org/a-billion-dollar-industry-inside-the-growing-solar-panel-recycling-sector-in-the-us/

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My main thing with solar is I wish they'd put panels over existing parking lots or large buildings. This is a thing that is already done in some places, this is a solved engineering problem, but in my area anywhere a solar farm has sprung up it's been a field that previously either grew crops or was undeveloped woods. And I know the reason someone's going to come back with: To install solar awnings over an existing Wal Mart parking lot, you need to tear up the asphalt to install power lines, build the actual structure, permitting is probably more expensive, and you have to have some or all of the parking lot down for awhile during construction restricting the use of the store. Meanwhile, clear cut 10 acres of forest and you get lumber to sell to a paper mill.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I disagree, only thinking we should cover EVERYTHING - any human building / structure etc should have solar all over. yeah, it's not cheap to build them, but we should stop playing fuckaround and get it done, it'll be cheaper to do it today than tomorrow.

But re: fields - they can do double duty via agrivoltaics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrivoltaics

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 38 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

“Junior please walk 30cm to the left and do this task that would have been easier for me to do than ask you to do it”

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Junior ought to be able to do his work

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's faster, cleaner, and far more efficient for me to clean my kids' dinner plates.

And if I always do it, they'll never do it on their own.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

It's just one of those things you can do yourself, but you want the kid to feel valuable too.

Besides, if you're getting radiation poisoning, you want that little shit to go down with you.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 156 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Imagine using something dangerous to generate power or heat for a home. Something that if it leaks into your home could suffocate you overnight or explode, or that in normal use can give children respiratory issues or cause cancer. Thank goodness we're too smart to use something like that unlike the absolute imbeciles in this comic

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not only that, but mining for it produces massive quantities of dangerous runoff and radioactive waste. Good thing coal doesn't do that!

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Coal is probably more radioactive than you think and the waste gets unfiltered into the air. Poisoning the whole world

[–] lengau@midwest.social 63 points 19 hours ago

Imagine if we had to move it around in such large quantities that there were thousands of kilometres of unwatched pipelines just out there, potentially leaking.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 58 points 19 hours ago

And imagine people fight pointless wars over resources instead of using the renewables that are available for free.

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I have absolutely no idea how to find reference to this at this point because every search I do results in absolute bullshit that’s not related (like apparently the most liquid currency is the diarrhea coin… a problem that didn’t exist a few years ago..), but I recall reading about a practice from like the medieval era or something where special coins were made that contained heavy metals, and when consumed, would induce diarrhea. They would be retrieved, washed, and reused, and even passed down in families.

Today we know how bad of an idea something like that is, but then, like with radiation, it was all ghosts in the blood causing problems. Shitting blood was normalized.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Not a coin, and not medieval. The search term is "antimony pill".

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago

Thank you! I was having such a struggle with it! That’s exactly what I was thinking of!

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 42 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty sure that kid's arm would hang down to his ankle if he straightened it. Must be all those atomic wafers.

[–] zout@fedia.io 26 points 18 hours ago

He's actually the bass player in a metal band.

[–] RedFrank24@piefed.social 13 points 19 hours ago

That's not his arm.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like "Atomic Wafer" should be a band name

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Or as slang for a tab of LSD

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

why do i feel like Radioactive Buttplug is both already a band and an approved medical device

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

"Kilowat"

Might have questioned the reliability of that information source even back then already...

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 34 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, the kilo-wat. For when a simple "wat" doesn't accurately capture the absurdity of the situation.

For example, asking junior to put an atomic wafer in the power box, when you are standing right fucking next to it.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 47 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago

But a picture is worth a thousand words!

[–] Floodedwomb@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I wish I could give that lady a hug.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 18 hours ago

She can't do it, her eyes fell off because of the radiations.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Could you imagine a world where we first used atomic power for good and not evil?

[–] Emi@ani.social 18 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I don't know history of uranium very much but wasn't it first used to paint ceramics and later radium for glowing watches? Uranium bombs were made later probably after it was used to generate power. But I wonder what our world would look like if there was not as much scare of nuclear power. Perhaps bit like fallouts world? We still have some time left to 23rd October 2077 thankfully.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The first man made reactor (there's an extinct naturally occurring one) was created in 1942 as part of the Manhattan project to create the first bombs. So we really did speed run the tech tree for bomb on that one. The first nuclear power plant was in 1951.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

First use: glowing paint
Second use: cancer

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[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

The watches were radium, not uranium.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

if there was not as much scare of nuclear power.

I was pro nuclear until solar became cheaper than nuclear but I think if there was less scare about nuclear, there would have been more Chernobyls. That happened because of thinking it's completely safe.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Chernobyl happened through the incompetence of leadership, not because they thought it was "completely safe".

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

It's a good thing leadership incompetence is something that only ever happens once

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Incompetence AND overconfidence, cause those reactors were the latest generation and considered completely safe.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I was pro-nuclear until Georgia Power stuck me with the bill for Plant Vogtle 3 and 4.

(Or rather, I was pro-nuclear until shortly after construction began on a 7-year plan that ultimately took 15 years, when it started to become clear that gross incompetence and corruption was going to make it an expensive debacle.)

Nuclear power from Vogtle 3 and 4 costs 16¢ per kWh (according to the linked document), by the way, compared to less than 0.1¢ per kWh expected by OP's comic.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

*Licks powerbox*

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

So was the popular conception back then that power was somehow magically transferred directly from uranium to the power grid?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What grid? It looks like the "power box" on the wall is generating power for that house all by itself, no transmission necessary.

Considering that the smallest operating nuclear reactor ever made was this big...

SNAP-10A nuclear reactor

...and that critical mass is a thing, I can only assume the "power box" was some kind of RTG.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't all but the largest RTGs struggle to power more than a few incandescent light bulbs, though? Looking at the table on Wikipedia, their output is usually only from a few dozen to a few hundred watts.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

It was 60 years ago. If they put same effort to it as they put to computers you would have one in your pocket.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Miniature breeder reactor

You would drop in the uranium fuel source and it would be used to create more fuel.

Short version is most early nuclear science focused on breeder type reactors but they were abandoned when it was found that more conventional designs are a lot more feasible for producing weapons grade material.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago

Looking at the illustration, it's hard to figure out year it was drawn. The artist is creating a 'future house.' Also, it's not clear if this is an educational comic, or one for entertainment.

99% of the people today ahve some idea of what 'gamma rays' are, but we all accept that they can turn a normal man into The Hulk.

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