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Nintendo's Switch 2 got off to a roaring start but demand has started to sag, particularly in the US. Where are the big games to reverse this?

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[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Why would I spend that much for a system only to play the same games I've already played on five other fucking systems? If you look at all the games you can play on switch 2 right now nearly all of them are from previous generation consoles.

And if that's not bad enough, they charge full fucking price for the remakes too. You want to play a game that came out 15 years ago on the Wii? Well get ready to pay 60 fucking dollars for the privilege of paying for the same game for the third time.

Oh but you wanted to play in 4K? Cough up another $10 or $20 for the switch 2 upgrade.

Nintendo is smoking some serious fucking crack when it comes to the pricing of their shit.

Fuck all that. Get a steam deck or similar machine that can also play PC games and can emulate anything from the switch one or Wii U.

I recently almost purchased a switch 2, but after seeing the pricing structures and the lack of new original titles, I said no. I'm currently playing breath of the wild in the Cemu emulator at 4K on my TV at 120 FPS with all the bells and whistles including surround sound using the gaming laptop that I purchased 2 years ago. Game plays flawlessly and fully supports my dual sense controller that I already own. Saved myself a ton of money.

[–] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

My favorite part of the steam deck is how I didn't have to pay to "upgrade" the games I already own.

Oh and how I didn't have to buy my game library again

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 6 points 9 hours ago

They've half-assed every game since BOTW. The systems aren't the problem.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago

Wasn't it the fastest selling console, at least for some time? So many people who wanted one will already have one.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Nintendo definitely learning the wrong lesson from this:

  • The Right Lesson: Maybe we shouldn't released an expensive console, with only a handful of new games and tons of repeat releases that are $70 (and suck) especially in a really bad global economy, and some of those games dont even have a real physical copy, and stop treating our fans like they are literally Hitler because they are passionate about our products.

  • The Wrong Lesson: People must not want powerful hardware and physical games anymore.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Why would they learn that when the Switch 2 is selling twice as fast as the first even with a much more limited catalog? A drop of 1/3 is still selling notably faster than the first Switch at it's same time span. It's still a huge success.

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 57 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

I’d love to get a Switch 2, but $500 + $70/per game is just too steep for me.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In theory I'd be upset with that but there's no games to buy anyways.

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Personally, Mario Kart World, Kirby Air Riders, and the next Pokémon is enough to get me to spend $200-$300. Altogether though, I’m looking at $710 pre tax. That’s just too much for me.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

It’s a price thing for me to for the most part.

If they had better first party games, I’d be tempted, but even then.

Also them banning consoles of people who bought used games is a big no for me.

That means the only way to protect myself is to way until the system gets hacked and play on a hacked system disconnected from Nintendo.

So, that’s what I’m waiting for.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That's 80$-90$ in Canada, that's just waaay too much for a video game. I'll wait until the homebrew scene gets off the ground first.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 91 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm rooting for the demise of what Nintendo currently is, but this isn't so much of a story. They had lofty projections for sales and manufacturing to make sure that they could meet demand, they've met that demand, and it's high. This is revising one quarter's production down from 6M to 4M. It's still doing well for them.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago

Right? They specifically set out to make sure it wouldn't be scalped to hell and back after repeated complaints.

They did that, and now the product is real, and market predictions on existing products are much more reliable. The initial production wasn't sustainable but wasn't meant to be sustained, either.

[–] catalyst@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed, this feels like making a story out of nothing for clicks.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Just look at this comment section, it's popular to hate Nintendo. It's mostly justified, but this story isn't.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 19 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I loved my Switch but wasn't planning on getting a 2 due to cost of device and new games. I was gifted one for Xmas, and while I enjoy it, outside Mario Kart (that came with it) I haven't found a new title made specifically for S2 that I wouldn't buy for the other consoles or PC. I'm just playing some older catalog stuff, or games that I would prefer on the go. There's no new Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, nothing 1st party to keep driving a console. It boggles my mind they didn't have more 1st party lined up for the first year of launch

[–] jefferyjefferson@lemmy.org 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

You can, and should, just get used to downloading games for free on an open device like the Steam Deck or just a regular PC/gaming laptop.

We need to stop giving power to the companies that only use it to take advantage of us.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh I have an Ally. One of the big reasons I wasn't going to get an S2. I was just about to get a bigger battery for it when I got the S2 gifted to me.

[–] agingelderly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Where/how do I get them on my steam deck? I'm old and confused

[–] jefferyjefferson@lemmy.org 1 points 5 hours ago

You can download emulators for free for the consoles you like. The Switch emulator is called Eden.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

I was tempted to get it for the Metroid Prime game, but after reviews (and having to lower my discretionary budget because EVERYTHING COSTS MORE) I've decided to hold off. The Mario Mafia is definitely souring my opinion of the Big N, and the fact that their titles practically never go on sale means I wouldn't buy many games for it anyways. Meanwhile my PC (and by extension my Steam Deck) continues to be my favorite gaming platform.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pokopia, Bananza? It’s better than PS5 launch imo

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Bananza feels so pointless, pokopia is the first thing so far that feels worthwhile.

Meanwhile ps5 launch had demons souls, and was the high end thing so multiplats made sense there like cyberpunk and asscreed Valhalla.

Ultimately; they're both sad launch lineups

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 48 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

People ain't got no money.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 12 hours ago

My friend has been liking his but even moreso misses the Steam Deck he had stolen. And now can't replace.

[–] AWizard_ATrueStar@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

As a long time Nintendo fan since the NES, Switch 2 is the first Nintendo console (except Virtual Boy, I suppose) that I did not go out and purchase day 1. I still have no real interest.

I like physical carts and the idea that a cart is really just a license key to download a game is a no-go for me right from the start. $80 games. So heavily tied to the online account that any ban, accidental or otherwise, effectively bricks the console. No games that interst me (other than Metroid, which I just bought for Switch 1).

Add all that together and I don’t know if/when I will ever get a S2 at this point. Maybe in a few years second hand. We’ll see.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Same boat. Nintendo fan since the NES, this is the first one I don't want to buy (I even had a Virtual Boy, although I got it cheap on clearance). The quality of their games has dropped while the cost of their games and hardware have gone up. I'm sure I'll play the good games they release that I missed eventually, whether via emulation or a cheap used one MANY years from now.

[–] Errorcode7@programming.dev 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Games costing $70+ is a giant turn off for me with that console. I would like portable cyberpunk, but I'm not buying that several year old game for $70

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I played cyberpunk on my steam deck - it's my only device. I picked it up on sale for £22

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

As of 2 days ago, FSR 4 works on a Steam Deck, w/Cyberpunk:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0er-7pyMr3Q

FSR4 INT8

OptiScaler PreRelease

This will also work on AMD 6000s and 7000s series cards.

And if you'd like a linux native mod manager:

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Cool! I've been meaning to give cyberpunk another playthrough when I get time.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's why you buy a Steam Deck instead, pirate Cyberpunk and be able to play it with mods for much better performance than on the Switch 2. Plus, you can pirate a shit ton of other games. Proton on Steam Deck has come a VERY long way.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago

buy a Steam Deck

Yeah, not really an option now, unless you want to pay scalper prices.

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

personally, I've been hesitant to buy because Nintendo is willing to brick consoles for people using 3rd party software. otherwise, I'm just waiting for splatoon 4 to come out to buy it. I can wait for an emulator for anything else :p

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Expensive console + $80 games - decent amount of games = Fuck Nintendo???

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Switch 2 had record-breaking sales FYI. This story is really about the overall economy and how fans already bought it.

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[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The switch 2 costs considerably more in the US than elsewhere thanks to the tariffs. That tax is going to suppress sales no matter what, and there are other economic pressures that harm most people's buying power as well

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

it doesn't, in fact the switch 2 seems to be cheaper in the us than anywhere else (except maybe japan)

msrp is 450$ usd in the us, 630$ cad (458$ usd) in canada, 396£ (530$ usd) in the uk, 700$ aud (487$ usd) in australia, and 470€ (545$ usd) in france

i don't think the tariffs are having much of an impact, or more likely nintendo is charging everyone to cover them

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Keep in mind though that US prices don't include VAT, whereas in most countries they do. But you're right that it's not significantly more expensive in the US, it's pretty similar to other regions.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The games are $99.99 on the shelf for Canada too. Just seeing that is immediately revolting. $110 for the "switch 2 upgrade pack" versions of games, like BOTW. A fucking switch 1 launch title that is currently 9 years old.

Before tax. So add another 5-15% depending on province.

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, honestly I don't know anyone that has bought or plans on buying a Switch 2, but I know a lot of people that bought or have Switch 1. Of course, that's anecdotal, but shits just way too pricey. I and most that I know got into the Switch because of the affordability and on-the-go console play. Half of that equation is gone, and we already have the on-the-go console play with Switch 1.

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[–] leoj@piefed.zip 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (7 children)

State+local sales tax at around 7.5% (weighted average) takes it to 480 USD (sales tax in the US can be 0 in a couple states, but is usually much more), canada appears to be winning this competition!

Edit 1: Apparently Canada doesn't include sales tax in their prices, so North America is just special in general, I wonder if we can get Mexico in this coalition.

Edit 2: Mexico has declined to join our coalition.

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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There aren't enough appealing Switch 2 games at least for me, the price should go down and I rather wait for that EU model with easier battery-swapping.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I thought the price was going to go up because of silicone shortages.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Well when you funnel everything to 1% eventually nobody can buy. That's the whole point of the system.

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