can't wait for Netflix documentary miniseries!
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Training brain-chip to Rip&Tear, I'm sure this can never go wrong.
Is it ThoughtEmporium or are other people doing it too?
So, uh... is it any good at it?
How to tell when scientific research doesn't have to worry about oversight.
Finally, I knew when I saved this to my phone there would be a perfect moment. (Humanity is too predictable)
Attribution: https://lemmy.world/post/43077529
Scientists: "No, this isn't The Torment Nexus, this is 'The Nexus of Torment'! It's totally different!"
we grew a human brain
200'000 "~~brian~~ brain cells" (so about 1/3 of it neurons) is the equivalent to a really simple microcontroller.
Edit: left the typo for funny
I suppose anyone here who believes in reincarnation is slightly worried now.
"Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should"
Micheal on his fictional book about sex changing lizards in an unconventional zoo.
I have no mouth and I must Doom.
I have no MOUSE and I must DOOM
Honestly? Sounds preferable to being stuck in the universe of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream..... I'll take a challenging power fantasy with some massively overpowered weapons over millennia of endless physical and psychological torture by an insane AI..... might just be me though...
A 'digital rendition of Hell'... you even Doom bro?
Wasn't the original Doom a digital representation of Mars and its moons: Phobos and Deimos?
...for the original doom, the overarching narrative was that deimos disappeared after teleportation research inadvertently opened a portal to hell: episode 1 (knee-deep in the dead) was set on phobos; episode 2 (on the shores of hell) was set on deimos hovering in the skies of hell; and episode 3 (inferno) was set down on the surface of hell itself, not mars...
...episode 4 (thy flesh consumed) was set back on earth following the invasion of hell, but it was an add-on released a couple years after the original game; counterintuitively, back then the original game was downloadable shareware for episode 1 with episodes 2-3 available via mail-order directly from id, and episode 4 was finally distributed as a retail expansion only after the retail release of doom II (kind of an inter-quel?)...
Shareware Doom
Aka why most people thought Doom 1 was so short. Myself included.
Yes, but with a dimensional portal to Hell opened on them. Or where do you suppose the demons come from.
But you're the demons, John.
And then John was a zombie
Yes, but IIRC they just happened to be the location of the hell portal that humans disturbed, and hell started leaking out. The depiction of Phobos and Deimos as hell-like was after the leakage. The third part of original Doom was back on Earth when the leakage had spread there, and it looked exactly like the hell of the Mars moons.
I wouldn't bet money on that being exact, but that's how I remember it.
Didn't the thought emporium work on this?
They are, the small difference is, that they are trying to do it with rat neurons if I remember correctly.
Yeah they are working on this for sure. The video series is available here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZLsjPxmF1BE1BAAeJgF2A17pKxeIBGm8
Raises uncomfortable questions about consciousness. The only difference between these neurons and your own are the number of them and the structures they form. Of course it doesn't know what it's doing, but... Neither do our own neurons
I mean it's the same question we've been asking all our lives about the animals, fetuses and now AI. When does it stop being a flowchart and start being a consciousness.
Science and Ethics — the age old enmity between "I wanna know" and "I'm not allowed to find out"
Science and Ethics — the age old enmity between "I wanna know" and ~~"I'm not allowed to find out"~~ "Am I able to find out without doing something monstrously inhumane"
FTFY
I guess my point is that sometimes even if it's illegal you can get away with it if done correctly, with ruling party aligned stated goals....or you have access to a shit tonne of money and powerful friends.
I simplified for comedic effect. You're absolutely right that the "compromise" would be finding some humane and ethical solution, but "The most effective and direct way of finding out is cruel and callous" isn't quite as snappy.
I guess my point is that sometimes even if it's illegal you can get away with it if done correctly, with ruling party aligned stated goals....or you have access to a shit tonne of money and powerful friends.
That kinda dodges the conflict by not engaging with ethical concerns at all. I feel like calling it a solution would be morbid, but it does make the problem stop being a problem...
That kinda dodges the conflict by not engaging with ethical concerns at all.
I guess I...kinda lost the plot a bit when I wrote the second part, eh?
There's ethics...and then there's what the government in the country a scientist operates in views as "morally and ethically acceptable".
Stem cell research was banned in most places for a long time. The US is banning CRISPR, if I remember right, the OG Nazis, Soviets and Empire of Japan (and honestly basically everyone else too, just those are the three that were highlighted when I was in school) rubber-stamped and funded research that should warrant execution by vivisection...die by your own methods and all that.
You're right it's not really a solution. However the realities of modern society means that there's room within what is morally and ethically acceptable in any country to operate in both a humane and inhumane fashion. And if it doesn't then money and connections to those in power allow further leeway to be an example of humanity at it's best....or a monster in a human suit....
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... Am I missing something, or is this not like, the practical, if not lore accurate first step toward actually creating a:
Why did hell have its own R&D department doing high tech cybernetics anyway?
What other advance industry does hell have. It’s obviously a highly capitalistic place, so I imagine banking/finance?
the only missing components are a minigun, robotic spyder legs and positive reinforcement coctail whenever it kills a person.
“We decided to leave those out of our first test, staring down the barrels of a minigun during neural training were putting our scientists off”
Next step, give it spider legs and a gattling gun!
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