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it's absolutely true that government has been grossly misused and must never be thought of as perfect. we should constantly debate and iterate on our laws.
it is also true that it is one of the best possible forces to do good in the world: food security, healthcare. and i wish for its capacity to do good to be expanded.
Fair
I agree with almost all this list, but Building 7 pisses me off a bit
WhY dId BuIlDiNg 7 cOlLaPsE?
Because two of the tallest buildings in the world collapsed right next to it, causing structural damage that lead to it's collapse.
BuT iT lOoKs LiKe A DeMoLiTiOn.
What do you think structural failure is meant to look like? Do you think it's meant to look like Jenga bricks falling over? Like do you really think two of the largest buildings in the world collapsing next to a comparatively small building like that is going to do nothing?
The reason why you don't see surrounding buildings damaged when they're demolishing something like a British Tower-block is because they time the explosions precisely, shore up anything that might get damaged and evacuate the area. Do you really think the same thing would happen if two of the world's largest towers had their floors slam down on each other like a squeezebox, and then had the cores collapse right next to them? Do you, hand on heart, think a building right next to that happening, wouldn't suffer structural damage?
Wanna know something about 9/11? If the US government wanted to do a false flag, they wouldn't fucking bother doing some long winded scheme involving thermite or explosives or missiles disguised perfectly as planes that can be debunked by people who think Occam is a razor company. They would just like whatever of the 101 major terror plots that are being planned against the US that they know about happen. Why spend millions of dollars doing it yourself when you can just fucking let the guy in Afghanistan and his buddies that you have been watching for a decade and change do what they have been planning.
That, or, and this is something people might not consider, as cruel, power hungry, and sociopathic as the world's governments may be, they are also made up of people, some of those people fuck up, some of those people are morons. The idea that the everpresent They, (The Enby that controls the world) is hypercompetant and hyperintelegent is just something people believe to feel safer when they trust the government, and more powerful when they don't.
I agree, and feel similarly about the inclusion of operation Northwoods.
It's most prominently a horrifying plan that was rejected and remained classified, with the proposer being replaced shortly afterwards (it's entirely possible that's a coincidence).
Someone thinking of something horrible and then not doing it isn't evidence that they would do something similar. There's no particular reason to think they hid evidence because they admitted in the same deeply classified documents to doing far worse things.
I know, and you don't need to point to Operation Northwoods to "prove" anything because American Government officials have proposed much worse things and have done much worse things.
Like MacArthur proposed using nukes like conventional bombs to completely irradiate the Korean - Chinese Border. This would not merely kill Millions, perhaps billions, but it would cause a nuclear winter. For that, MacArthur was dismissed. That was a proposal.
What people forget is that MacArthur fired upon American World War One vets protesting to get their War bonuses because of the depression during the Bonus War. You don't need to make up conspiracies, what governments have already done/doing are bad enough.
Ghislane was invited on the 9/11 shadow commission so I'm throwing my favorite conspiracy in the ring: A handful of people at the CIA and Mossad piggybacked on an Al Qaeda operation and let it go forward to destory evidence of crimes, steal billions and create a justification for war all in one move.
No thermite needed and it doesn't particularly matter if the Pentagon was hit by a missile or not it plays the same. Epstein files prove the rogue elements in the CIA have been there for decades. Very little hands on work needed, mostly strategic fumbling.
tbh, an everpresent hypercompetent and hyperintelligent enby that controls the world would be preferrable to the current situation
Multiple organizations within the US government received warnings about and had information on the 9/11 attacks like a month before hand, we knew it was going to happen and let it, that's a fact.
To be fair, I doubt that is what whoever made this had in mind but still it is a valid piece of evidence for not trusting the government.
Telecommunications Act
Copyright extensions
DMCA
SAVE Act
KOSA
War on drugs
War on terror
SOPA, PIPA, Xkeyscore
Citizens United
SCOTUS
Unequal representation
Electoral College
Corporate capture
We didn’t start the fire
Patriot Act
COINTELPRO
Operation AJAX
The smart ones don't need wikipedia to know that authority should be distrusted.
You just need one bad teacher or school admin and you should be able to figure out why you should be skeptical of all authorities, including your parents. (They could poison your food or even stab you in your sleep... so, stay alert kids, stay on guard at night 👀)
(Okay that last part I'm just half-kidding... but your parents could technically do it and you have no defense against that... 👀)
Asking if you trust the government is a stupid loaded question. No one trusts the government. You don't trust a loaded gun, but it's the best tool to have in your hand if someone's trying to kill you. Government isn't something you trust, it's a tool that might be the best for some jobs.
That is a rather short list.
just some highlights
This is all American stuff. What about British, German, French, Russian, Japanese, Chinese atrocities and coverups? God knows there are terrible secrets along them all.
Get you own post, whatabouter.
It's less whataboutism and more a comment on how you should be at least mildly distrustful of any government
"My parents are horrible, they beat me, killed my pets, stole my money and much more"
Well that's just your parents!! What about my parents? What about the neighbors parents?? God knows they are all horrible
Why do people always forget the Dutch. :(
Hell, just look back a bit for the shit done in the open.
I submit King Leopold the 2nd of Belgium. In Belgium he's known as "the builder king" because he spent so much of his own money to build parks and civic buildings and such.
Money that was acquired through what was described at the time as Crimes Against Humanity.
It’s not just those things that happened. It’s that everyone involved should have been arrested and incarcerated but it didn’t happen.
Well, yes, you shouldn't trust the US government or any other government out of the control of its people.
I don't trust government because of the things I know my government has done.
If you don't trust your government, then perhaps instead of just saying "American problem", list the things you know your government has done.
Don't forget about...
Agent Orange
Camp Lejeune
Vietnam Vets exposed to dirty medical equipment
Had neighbors and relatives that have been effected or died from all of these.
Government denied all wrong doing to all of these until private groups forced them to provide compensation.
PRISM
Also the entirety of the last 30 years of us politics