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[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 88 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

I agree with almost all this list, but Building 7 pisses me off a bit

WhY dId BuIlDiNg 7 cOlLaPsE?

Because two of the tallest buildings in the world collapsed right next to it, causing structural damage that lead to it's collapse.

BuT iT lOoKs LiKe A DeMoLiTiOn.

What do you think structural failure is meant to look like? Do you think it's meant to look like Jenga bricks falling over? Like do you really think two of the largest buildings in the world collapsing next to a comparatively small building like that is going to do nothing?

The reason why you don't see surrounding buildings damaged when they're demolishing something like a British Tower-block is because they time the explosions precisely, shore up anything that might get damaged and evacuate the area. Do you really think the same thing would happen if two of the world's largest towers had their floors slam down on each other like a squeezebox, and then had the cores collapse right next to them? Do you, hand on heart, think a building right next to that happening, wouldn't suffer structural damage?

Wanna know something about 9/11? If the US government wanted to do a false flag, they wouldn't fucking bother doing some long winded scheme involving thermite or explosives or missiles disguised perfectly as planes that can be debunked by people who think Occam is a razor company. They would just like whatever of the 101 major terror plots that are being planned against the US that they know about happen. Why spend millions of dollars doing it yourself when you can just fucking let the guy in Afghanistan and his buddies that you have been watching for a decade and change do what they have been planning.

That, or, and this is something people might not consider, as cruel, power hungry, and sociopathic as the world's governments may be, they are also made up of people, some of those people fuck up, some of those people are morons. The idea that the everpresent They, (The Enby that controls the world) is hypercompetant and hyperintelegent is just something people believe to feel safer when they trust the government, and more powerful when they don't.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

causing structural damage that lead to it's collapse.

Nope. The debris from WTC 1 caused structural damage to the southwest region of WTC 7—severing seven exterior columns—but this structural damage did not initiate the collapse.

What do you think structural failure is meant to look like?

It's meant to look nothing like an implosion from a controlled demolition.

The reason why you don't see surrounding buildings damaged when they're demolishing something like a British Tower-block is because they time the explosions precisely, shore up anything that might get damaged and evacuate the area.

Which is why the clean destruction of building 7 is so suspicious.

Do you, hand on heart, think a building right next to that happening, wouldn't suffer structural damage?

This is the opinion of NIST. i.e. The official US government line.

Why spend millions of dollars doing it yourself

Because you want billions of dollars of Iraqi oil.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 hour ago

Made up of people...

That sentence..

It is made up of flesh long lost to greed deeply drowned in overwhelmingly sad ego trips manipulated to do the bidding of hypercapitalist enormous autonomous demonic entities, that's also "made up" of people, each and every single one replaceable. The vd gone the layers gone the politicians gone it will regenerate new flesh and this flesh will do its bidding or also be made to let go of its lucrative benefits that include feeding its family and another of flesh will assume his duties until that flesh no longer can and then may we finally have peace as the planet has been divided evenly among the entities and they have eaten each other until one remain.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Multiple organizations within the US government received warnings about and had information on the 9/11 attacks like a month before hand, we knew it was going to happen and let it, that's a fact.

To be fair, I doubt that is what whoever made this had in mind but still it is a valid piece of evidence for not trusting the government.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

It doesn't take controlled demolitions or fake planes with hidden missiles or anything convoluted like that, just money. I can't prove it, but I believe there are people in this world who cultivate extremism like it's agriculture, and for the right fee you can order up some extremist robots to do some extremist shit.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 12 points 13 hours ago

Ghislane was invited on the 9/11 shadow commission so I'm throwing my favorite conspiracy in the ring: A handful of people at the CIA and Mossad piggybacked on an Al Qaeda operation and let it go forward to destory evidence of crimes, steal billions and create a justification for war all in one move.

No thermite needed and it doesn't particularly matter if the Pentagon was hit by a missile or not it plays the same. Epstein files prove the rogue elements in the CIA have been there for decades. Very little hands on work needed, mostly strategic fumbling.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What do you think structural failure is meant to look like? Do you think it’s meant to look like Jenga bricks falling over? Like do you really think two of the largest buildings in the world collapsing next to a comparatively small building like that is going to do nothing?

like this but rotated 90 degrees why

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Especially when you're all stopped up

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 25 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I agree, and feel similarly about the inclusion of operation Northwoods.
It's most prominently a horrifying plan that was rejected and remained classified, with the proposer being replaced shortly afterwards (it's entirely possible that's a coincidence).

Someone thinking of something horrible and then not doing it isn't evidence that they would do something similar. There's no particular reason to think they hid evidence because they admitted in the same deeply classified documents to doing far worse things.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

It's most prominently a horrifying plan that was rejected and remained classified

Many more horrifying plans have been accepted and are unclassified (e.g.Manhattan project).

The point is that precedent exists for hijacking planes for false flag purposes.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I know, and you don't need to point to Operation Northwoods to "prove" anything because American Government officials have proposed much worse things and have done much worse things.

Like MacArthur proposed using nukes like conventional bombs to completely irradiate the Korean - Chinese Border. This would not merely kill Millions, perhaps billions, but it would cause a nuclear winter. For that, MacArthur was dismissed. That was a proposal.

What people forget is that MacArthur fired upon American World War One vets protesting to get their War bonuses because of the depression during the Bonus War. You don't need to make up conspiracies, what governments have already done/doing are bad enough.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

For MacArthur, that plan, while horrific, wasn't as bad as you're painting it, if only because the bombs would have been much lower yield than modern nukes.

It would kill millions, especially if he used ground burst instead of air burst, but the actual global effect would be negligible. Cancer rates would spike in Northern Japan, but the fallout would mostly be over water.

Air burst would have even less effect, because there would be no fallout. (fallout is stuff from the ground that gets mixed with the radioactive material and free neutrons in a ground burst nuclear explosion, it's heavy so it falls out)

Still an insane plan and MacArthur was justly fired for it and a bunch of other similar insanity, I just wish the Dulles brothers had been similarly fired for the shit they pulled.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah, great, no fallout, fuck that is great super lets detonate millions and the radiatorn will go in the ocean yay it's not so bad yay

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You're forgetting that the singular person responsible for the decision not to do it was assassinated shortly after...

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago

And? What happened next? Did they do an operation Northwoods? Did we go to war with Cuba? Was Johnson more aggressive on Cuba than Kennedy, or was he actually more engaged on diplomatic fronts?

I'm not forgetting anything. It just doesn't fit with any narrative that makes a lick of goddamned sense. Like, Kennedy rejected Northwoods because he was worried the troops might be needed in Europe, so starting a war in Cuba would be a bad move.
He was strongly in favor of every other operation they proposed as part of the larger plan.

Why would a massive conspiracy exist to kill Kennedy for rejecting a plan and then... Not do the plan?

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 hours ago

No steel frame buildings in history have ever collapsed from fire. It has never happened... except for those three in one day.

Building 7 literally just caught fire and then fell. Pretty fucking weird.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Also giant buildings are designed to withstand a huge amount of torque/moment. They act like sails in the wind and it's a catastrophe if they fall over. But additionally you really want to minimize sway so people at the top don't get seasick in their office/apartment. But then there's the destruction element of it. You want to do everything in your power to make sure that if a building you design to go in Manhattan of all places has to go down it goes directly down and not across the street into another building like a tragic line of dominoes.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

i have been in well designed towers and poorly designed towers. the poorly designed tower was 13 floors high. it swayed like a concussed boxer. the well designed tower also swayed like fuck, but you couldn't feel it thanks to earthquake stuff.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

Basically. Buildings don't fall like Jenga bricks. When something bad happens, they tend to implode, be it on purpose, if an airliner crashes into them, or if the aforementioned building collapses next to you and causes you structural damage.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not big on the 9/11 conspiracy stuff. But, I do think some kind of shady shit was going down to motivate the attackers aside from hate for the US.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

You think hate for the US is insufficient?

I think you underestimate our reputation.