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+5 Yes, Puerto Rico is widely considered a colony—or often described as the world's oldest colony—due to its status as an unincorporated U.S. territory. While residents are U.S. citizens, they lack voting representation in Congress, cannot vote for president,

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[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 128 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

They didn't know Bad Bunny was a US citizen because they're ignorant of Puerto Rico.

I didn't know Bad Bunny was a US citizen because I didn't know he existed till last week.

We are not the same.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

This is the same group that referred to Puerto Rico and a trash heap in the ocean...at that totallynotanazirally rally at MSG

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I think your experience is very common and is EXACTLY what is driving that statistic.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Puerto Ricans have been fighting for a long time for statehood. Taking a look at the US now, I suggest reversing course. Independance would be a better choice.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

From what I've heard there isn't really a consensus among Puerto Ricans on what they want their status to be.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Correct. The last vote barely failed. Think it was 51/49 or something close to that.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

People indigenous to the island are very split between moving to closer alignment with the US via statehood or to move toward independence and ending the colonial commonwealth system. The only true consensus is that the current status quo is unsustainable and something needs to change.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't spend a lot of time with Puerto Ricans, but the two I keep in semi-regular contact with have said that they don't want Puerto Rico to become a state (they wave vaguely at the rules for imports/exports to South American countries; apparently the island has relaxed rules on that compared to states?).

What's actually stopped them from.becoming a state in the past? Seems like ~2013 was the last time a movement for that had any real traction?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Puerto Rico is unable to import or export directly to any country without going through the mainland United States first. This is a result of the Jones Act of 1920, shortly after PR gained citizenship but not statehood.

The Jones Act has caused some very fucked up consequences for hurricane relief like after H. Maria wrecked the island in 2017 and relief could not be provided from neighbors without a long extra trip to Florida for processing.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I’m Native American and some whites don’t think I’m American.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is actual "logic" my boss once used on this topic.

Native Americans arnt real Americans because they have native in front of them. Why would you need a different word to describe them if they were real Americans?

He's Mexican, came over illegally and married into citizenship basically.

He also votes hard right maga and might be the dumbest man I've ever known.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You might be talking about an uncle of mine. You've described him perfectly. I feel your pain ✊

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Native also, I 100% got profiled by a white cop in a small town I went fishing in last fall. Got pulled over and he was surprised I wasn't Mexican, fuck him. 

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Some of those whites have guns and "absolute immunity"

Native Americans are being swept up by ICE

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[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Where you getting that 73% from?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 14 points 3 weeks ago

I’m sure the number is ridiculously high, but it’s always funny to me when memes just throw a random percentage out there with no sources. This is done to make stupid people think this is a professional, real statistic.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's a real stat. Just like 49% of US citizens think we are not divided.

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[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'll do you one better: I didn't even know who Bad Bunny was prior to this news cycle. Not my genre of music.

But I do remember the last time Puerto Rico was hit by a hurricane, and Trump didn't do shit to help. Because he's a vile piece of shit that would rather fuck kids, his daughter, and this country rather than help anyone.

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

I have almost no idea who that Bad Bunny person is but I do know that fascists/republicans hate him so he must be pretty cool.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

So it's kinda No Taxation Without Representation situation? Or does that only apply to white people?

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

There are lower/no taxes there. That's why so many conservatives move there, or buy property there - particularly after a hurricane. Disaster capitalism.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean DC has plenty of white people but they're in a similar situation. Although at least they get to vote for president.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Still worth considering that DC is called "Chocolate City" for a reason. It's a majority minory city. I've encountered at least a few political scientists who firmly believe that the biggest barrier for DC gaining statehood is that historically the American imperial project will support social goods until they're extended to Black people (with the New Deal being the commonly referenced example of this, as well as why building a gentler form of capitalism through social democratic reform should be viewed as good, but not as enough)

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, until a couple weeks ago, I didn't know Bad Bunny is...

At all.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He was on a late night show with Linus from Linus Tech Tips. That was my first time seeing him. I'm glad Linus was able to give this small creator the break he needed (/s but it was the first time I saw him...)

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

the orange pedo clearly did not know Puerto Rico was a US territory during his first term… he also did not know it was an island

and this level of brilliance was rewarded with a second term by muricans… so yes, I tend to believe every stat that claims they are mostly ignorants

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

American here, if I could read I would be SO mad about what you wrote

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Canada will give them a home. Lord knows we need a friendly southern escape.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That would be an incredible change for the island. Right now their economy is kneecapped by byzantine US shipping laws. The jones act gives american shippers complete control over goods going to and from the island, driving up prices.

Falling under the care of a sanier nation, one who will help them rollout a reliable solar grid instead of dismantiling it, would do wonders.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Made up statistic aside, why is not knowing the nationality of a celebrity... bad? I don't even know his real name, this seems like a stretch to make it into american chauvinism rather than people just not knowing about a celebrity. Is that the joke?

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It’s relevant here because of the backlash from maga morons when it was announced a guy with brown skin would be doing the half time show. There was a lot of nationalist rhetoric bouncing around, being used to justify their racism.

It was all bs as their arguments were being levelled at an American citizen as he is Puerto Rican.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So bad bunny isn't a chick? Feeling out of the loop

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhad_Bhabie

You're probably thinking about the cash me outside girl.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, so why is that part of mexico american, I am confused? /s

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 6 points 3 weeks ago

mexico gave it to murica as a gift because mexico very nice 😊

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

While I understand most Americans are apparently racist idiots, I find that stat hard to believe.

In all the hoopla around the halftime show, I never once read anything other than he is Puerto Rican. Not even in the maga content the algorithm insists I want to see (to the extent I didn’t immediately block).

Maybe this is being too pedantic but it would be more believable if

  • “73% of Americans don’t understand that puerto ricans are us citizens”. Because we are that dumb.

Replying to that German guy somewhere in the comments - Spanish is spoken all over the us as the second most common language. Certainly anywhere in the south you’ll hear it all the time, but even up here in New England it’s very common. There’s no reason to be surprised by hearing it nor to think they are anything other than Americans who are speaking Spanish

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

71% of Americans have no idea that Puerto Ricans are American citizens.

Included in that 29% are all the people who are Puerto Ricans

I made these numbers up, but they're likely not that far off.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tomi Lahren: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPW89KfDIKN/

In a proper world, this would discredit her from being a pundit.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They really need to make Puerto Rico a full-fledged state at this point.

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[–] hesh@quokk.au 5 points 3 weeks ago

I missed the survey

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's amazing how many Lemmings claim to be above billionaire propaganda and yet sit here jerking themselves off about, both, knowing Bad Bunny is a U.S. citizen and him being at the Super Bowl.

Here's a thought: don't watch the fucking Super Bowl. Crazy, outlandish idea — but as a U.S. citizen I can guarantee that it is possible for you to do this. Break your chains.

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[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] housedogpartyfavor@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

A movement to turn pro sports into quasi nationalist rallies, with barely a peep about it, is far more alarming than ignorance about the vagarities of US territorial policy. Most people can’t even name the vice president! This is a very strange kind of manufactured outrage.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

85% of memes with made up percentages to make a point end with “let that sink in.” Let that sink in.

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