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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Isn't this a legally the situation where you're allowed to just fill them with lead?

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes, but since we brilliantly decided we were good with militarizing the police, expect for them to respond with a battalion's worth of goons that will absolutely mow down anything that moves without question. This is America.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So you'd need to take them out before either of them manages to call help, then call cops yourself that armed and masked men attacked your home and are laying dead AND then hope those cops won't just shoot you up themselves

Which they obviously would, because they are all from the same pack.

[–] BlueDemon@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't it the US that levelled a residential block for similar?

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Which time?

[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Yes*

I don’t know about Texas in particular, but regardless you’re very unlikely to survive the experience if you do

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 4 days ago

Yes, but this is also suicide.

In Texas? Only if you're white and conservative.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean technically the law allows you to shoot and kill people coming into your home if you fear for your life. They would have been justified in shooting these criminals breaking into their home.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 3 days ago

And then what? 3 gestapo members just got shot, we better leave him alone

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do we know these are ICE? Looks like the only indication is their gear saying "POLICE." Could be any police or anybody really?

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

I've seen a lot of them putting that on their jackets. They are trying to muddy the waters on purpose.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why we let people this fragile be employed in enforcement is beyond me.

[–] mrbeano@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago

They are NOT sending their best

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Careful, those phones look loaded! /s

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fuckin outlaw swagger, bringing the kid in as a bargaining chip.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Is it me or they don't have a fucking idea of what they are doing?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

What a shithole.

[–] fum@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Fucking thugs

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've got a device that quickly solves these problems. Guaranteed that upon its use, the invader's behavior would be significantly modified from that point forward. In fact, many people in the US own this kind of device as well, and the right to operate these devices is enshrined in the constitution for this exact scenario! Maybe It's time for people to start exercising this right.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t save Alex Pretti.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

If he had, ICE would go away?

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Americans are, for the most part, brainwashed out of any sort of rebellious thought. Therefore, they won't defend themselves, they will film, screetch and seethe.

Filming is somewhat effective at this stage. People need to know what is actually happening, as the country is really big. When the retaliatory violence starts, it will likely be after one of these videos shows a massacre.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Kavanaugh Stop and Kavanaugh entry in action.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The opening scene of Inglorious Basterds.