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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-arrests-new-orleans-police-recruit-accused-of-being-in-us-illegally/ar-AA1VBfsD

The New Orleans Police Department responded to the DHS statement with its own statement following the arrest of Temah:

Recent statements regarding Recruit Larry Temah are misleading. The New Orleans Police Department verified Mr. Temah’s employment eligibility through ICE’s E-Verify system prior to hiring and was never notified of any ICE detainer. New Orleans is not a sanctuary city, and NOPD does not control jail operations or detainer decisions, which fall under the Sheriff’s Office. Any claim that NOPD knowingly violated the law is false.
Officer Reese Harper (NOPD Director of Communications)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And the response of the police department of course is literally "ey, we did our due diligence, it's not our fault if he's illegal" instead of "GET YOUR FUCKING GRUBBY NAZI CLAWS OF MY EMPLOYEES YOU ORANGE FUCK!"

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

But why would your employees have fucking grubby Nazi claws?

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 30 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I understand black communities need black, local cops, but I'll never understand a person of color choosing to be a cop. The institution literally starts as slave catchers.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 1 hour ago

Kids grow up wanting to make a difference as cops like every other emergency service.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

Policing is a necessary function of civil society. We need good cops and good law enforcement policy. ICE is not that.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 37 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Real brave of New Orleans PR putting out a statement defending themselves while completely ignoring their officer. No mention of their confidence in him - or denying that he's a "Criminal illegal alien having no place in our community." Fucking pussies.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

Call the police union and see how little fucks they give

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago

It's the South. I'm surprised they said anything about the incident at all.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"ICE arrests black man for existing while black." There, fixed the headline.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

"Excuse me sir, do you have any idea how Black you were driving just now?"

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago

how's your police union helping now? oh wait..

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

You know what, in person I have a hard time being nasty even to people who are acting shitty... but this is the internet and I have a cold too so I'm feeling very detatched so fuck it, I look forward to the first full on shootout between cops and ice, fuck em both.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

I love you like this. Hope you get better soon though. But keep that fire!

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I literally said this yesterday, after watching the Police intervene in the illegal arrest of a Meidas reporter.

I'm waiting for a shoot out between ICE and Police and scrolled and found this article.

[–] OshagHennessey@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No matter who loses, we'll all win

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

THE GIRLS ARE FIGHTING!!!!!!🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️🤼‍♀️💅💅💅💅

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It's a pig-eat-pig world out there.

[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Is it “pig-eat-pig world”? I always thought it was “piggy pig world”.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago

Dogs as always, are good boys.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo fucking funny. ACAB anyway, so no problems there, let them fight each other

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah somehow I'm totally fine with this. Fuck them both

[–] waggz@programming.dev 89 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

In case you fail to read the article or statement above, they claim to have used ICEs own system to verify his eligibility. the incompetency has no bounds.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 105 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

It's not incompetency. Incompetency assumes you tried in good faith to do something the right way.

What ICE is doing is just trying to piss people off enough to be scared for their lives. They ARE accomplishing that task.

Did they cross reference this guys identity, and verify he was a citizen? No, but that was never their intent.

They aren't incompetent. They're malicious. Intentionally evil.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

And likely part of the grand plan. This only stokes the flames of civil unrest so some authoritarian fascist can blindly enact marshall law

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 13 hours ago

Well going for a cop isn't going to help them is it? If the cops and ICE end up shooting each other I think most people will consider that to be a fairly acceptable outcome.

[–] Red_October@piefed.world 21 points 20 hours ago

They held of the skin color swatch and determined he was in the "Arrest and deport" range. That's all they feel they need.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

What ICE is doing is convincing people they are going to die. That makes some run and hide and other prepare to live.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 27 points 22 hours ago

thier eligibity is just a skin color card, like in family guy how to identify non-whites.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 15 points 22 hours ago

Funny, cause there literally isn't a database of citizens so whatever they are using is some janky homegrown palantir bullshit.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 59 points 22 hours ago

Kidnapping a police officer is a bold move. In the interest of compliance with rules, I sincerely hope that this trend of LARPer vs. LEO will not continue until there is a predictable and unfunny consequence.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 53 points 23 hours ago

This is inception levels of blue lives matter getting canceled out by Black Lives Matter.

Must be sad when you have to stoop down to this level and still can jumpstart that civil war so you can cancel elections.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My brother in Christ should receive a legitimate offer compensation for this little fuck up. I would be willing to take this case, waive my fee & work pro boner on this case of gross incompetence. I swear, those ice fucks have 2 brain cells & they’re both fighting for third place.

[–] Cokes@feddit.org 27 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure if "pro boner" is Intentional or not... 🤔

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 13 points 20 hours ago

To be fair, I do have a boner for justice and worker rights.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’ll just wave my boner. I sure wish I could practice law in New Orleans. One thing kept me from passing the bar exam in the state of Mississippi. That thing is integrity.

[–] Cokes@feddit.org 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Still not sure if you're serious, but using "boner" instead of "bono" as a legal term might have something to do with not passing the BAR.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I like to watch certain videos pro boner.

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

He watched the entire series of Barely Legal and still failed, how is this possible? J/k