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Do a working class revolution
If I "strike" i.e. don't go to work today, I won't get paid and I won't be able to buy food or pay my bills or survive, and I will die. And I suspect many other people have the exact same conundrum.
Strikes are organized through unions not hashtags.
We don't have unions anymore. Reagan busted them.
All we can do is rebuild.
Not an American, what happened? How does a president just remove unions?
It wasn't so much remove them as fire anyone who went on strike...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_strike
General strikes don't require you to be in a union. They do require a larger amount of organizing than simply having a lot of the workforce in unions though so...
Strikes require unity across a workforce.
If some workers in a local context work instead of participating in a strike, then the business is not pressured to acquiesce, and the sacrifice is in vain.
Striking in any case results in lost pay, which promotes fear and threatens survival. Solidarity improves morale and saves lives.
Fostering unity and solidarity is among the essential functions of a union.
Next nationwide 50501 protest is a national walk-out on Jan 20th.
We'll see you there, right?
I'm my own boss. It's never an issue. Thanks for the tip. Just joined my state's 50501 group.
Some leftists talk about a general strike like its the rapture. You need the ground work done. We've done none of the work broadly to make something like that feasible. Strikers need economic and legal leverage, they'd have basically none if they tried.
You have to walk before you run.
Anytime I see posts talking about a general strike I equate to "thoughts and prayers".
Yes, but also its worse. They are demanding people shoot themselves in the crotch and saying we're cowards for not shooting ourselves in the crotch.
A general strike would need to be huge to work. And yet we see folk bitching that the No Kings rallies "did nothing", as if.just getting America to stand up wasn't an accomplishment.
Getting white liberals to congratulate themselves for their good intentions on a Saturday is very much NOT an accomplishment.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I presume you mean that it was an exercise in preaching to the choir.
But the way you put it seems to denigrate the white liberals themselves. Are you actively scorning valuable supporters?
Prior to the protests, there was a lot of discussion about how people of color, and especially black Americans, were always the ones putting their neck on the line for progress in this country and that they felt particularly vulnerable and that it was time for white people to stand up. I heard that line repeatedly. So why are we criticizing them for standing up when we told them to stand up?
How about you try to be inclusive and encourage as many people to join your cause as possible?!
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Not "my" cause. I'm sure it will be at some point, when your inaction ends with this shit at my country's border, but no, right now this isn't my fight.
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I will stop criticizing them when they do something.
No, having a cute little parade doesn't count. It's hilarious that you call them "valuable supporters." They're do-nothing cowards at BEST, and fascist enablers at worst.
Or goto the capitol and kick them out... Vs wasting time.
While I wholeheartedly agree with both your sentiment of anger and who that anger should be directed toward, I must point out that what you propose is not realistic. We're just not at that point, nor is there sufficient political will to do so. Protests/walkout aren't a waste of time since they are actionable steps to growing movements that enact systemic change. The point of these demonstrations isn't to enact direct change, but to bring people together to organize.
Besides, how would you get enough people together to do as you suggest if getting people together to organize is "wasting time"?
In the USA health insurance is tied to work; if you're fired "with cause" (like from general strike) you don't have health insurance or any "unemployment".
They don't make these laws without reason, they know what they're doing. The USA is a plutocracy designed to squash unions, and does a pretty good job of it
As you look outside in the US on the first Monday after a holiday and see the countless millions of people driving to work, going grocery shopping, dropping off and picking up their kids, you need to ask yourself if you really think the bulk of the money-spending, child-feeding, bill-paying population of the US is ready to sacrifice weeks of services and food for an outcome that they don't actually want or understand.
You know it's not going to happen, but the next best thing is political organizing and getting social and making people more aware in REAL LIFE about issues in their community that impact them, and the people who represent them. Volunteer to get petitions, sign up for Progressive Victory, use that energy to help the systems already working to mitigate or even reverse damage being done to our nation.
We can still turn this boat around with traditional politics, but it takes actual humans getting involved with other actual humans. Since capital has successfully turned most of our socialization muscles to mush, it will be uncomfortable at first, but far easier to pull off than trying to get several hundred million comfortable people to break their own system.
They've cultivated this culture where nobody can afford to do any kind of direct action like a general strike. There's a reason why nearly everyone in America works paycheck to paycheck and has essentially zero savings.
January 20 at 2pm local time
I wonder if it's a coincidence that Jan 20th is the day our boss required us all to show up for a special training required 8 hours that day, and this is extremely rare, like randomly once a year do we have a mandatory training event like this.
I'm gonna end up committing sui before the general American populace does a gen strike.
No one should be buying from Amazon. Start with one big company, simple yeah? No, because post Christmas season now, the amount of people who still use amazon has not changed at all. For me sure, the general populace? They're fucking morons. Consume consume consume. I'm gonna consume myself from the inside out. These rat bitches only care about themselves. American individualism is a cancer.
I'm struggling to exist in this. I cannot tell you how much these assholes don't care.
This isn't corporate social media, you can say suicide there's no algorithm to punish you.
Fair. I didn't write it like that for algorithm sake or whatever. I'm just so familiar with the term I shortened it lol "to commit the sui". It's just dark humor/play on words. Fuck the algorithm
General Strike? My friend, we aren’t even in unions right now! It will take years to build that kind of power.
Let’s focus on building a new mass political party that does not exist in the wilderness, then we can work to that point.
A general strike requires organization, but US society is completely atomized.
If anyone thinks a strike is actually happening with the state of things then they are incredibly naive and do not understand just how much foundational effort and structuring needs to be in place first for that to even be considered a possibility, much less actualized.
I’m all for it but I feel that a large population of the country is just not gonna care enough to get activated. I would love to be proven wrong, this needs to be massive to the point it makes the no kings protest look like a farmer market.
My big question with a grassroots general strike is who negotiates for us? We'll all have different "good enough" goals that would get us back to work. Seems like we'd need a strong central leader speaking for everyone....
That’s easy Bernie and AOC
"The most vulnerable should pay for the revolution." People aren't just stupid, liberals have spent the last century implementing anti-popular-labour-action measures. A general strike would require people who cannot afford to survive to risk what little they have, mutual aid networks and consequences for those in positions of power must exist in order for that risk to be minimized.
I work in the care industry, my clients need support 24/7 and there are only so much staff around. Should I leave my clients to their own designs‽
These kinds of things tend not to happen until people are starving and have nothing left to lose.
Well you would need strong unions and a non apathetic population to pull off a general strike.
After the holidays would be a hilariously well timed general strike.