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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 83 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ya, we already knew about the traitor.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago

Elbows up, our defense doesn't care whether he's a star player or not.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

The Great Once

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Seriously this is really old news.

[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 weeks ago

People in Edmonton have been literally shitting on his statue. We know about the traitor.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

Americans don't know that Canada already knows

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I have a groundbreaking theory about prolonged playing of contact sports, traumatic brain injury, and far right politics... You generally don't hear these headlines about tennis/soccer players, or nearly as often about basketball/baseball players.

As someone who enjoys American football and hockey, it's a damn shame that we still paint athletes as role models.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I know it's funny to insinuate that brain damage caused people to become conservatives, but I think we should accept that the culture around aggressive, full-contact sports tends to be conservative to start with. Surround yourself with that culture day-in, day-out, and before long you find yourself ingrained in more than just their favorite sports.

But I mean, that doesn't mean it's not the brain damage. A thing can be more than one thing.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

Just look at Fetterman. Had a stroke, and he’s now conservative.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's true, it's a combination of factors. A big part is the insular nature of the team and coaching as you go higher up the ladder. If you're not thanking God in your post-win interview you're a "locker room problem"; if you want a coaching job after you retire you've gotta be on good terms with the good ol' boys network.

I do think that the brain damage does compound heavily though. I know Mormons who get out and become well adjusted people later in life; the semi-pro football players I know get more irrational and violent as the CTE sets in.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Football (soccer as you call it) is so underrated in this respect it's not even funny, heading the ball is extremely dangerous for the brain in the long term. Not to mention head clashes in challenges etc. Granted, most injuries are in the lower limbs but still.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Footballers have a much high chance of developing and dying from ALS.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Basketball as well. Elbows inside are real and thumping opponents is normal.

As opposed to victims of the never ending human thirst for blood sports

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Oh we all know about the Great Once.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 27 points 3 weeks ago

Who fucking cares. Old rich guy likes Trump. Shocker.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

You're like 2 years late

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We know. Not that it matters. He moved to the US decades ago, anyway...so they can keep him.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

and they can keep his shitty grape juice and industrial solvent whisky.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gretzky has always been that way. I'm not sure why anyone respects him anymore.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

He was at the inauguration, we know.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

That's the guy that ripped off the Michael Scott with the quote "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

[–] olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

We know. He is a dickhead. His "whiskey" is shit, his "wine" tastes like his "whiskey" (also shit) and he is shit.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

Why does it matter? He chose america willingly and they welcomed him a long time ago. They say never meet your heroes but the internet makes that almost impossible.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

CTE is a hell of a series of traumatic brain injuries yes

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I'll spam this fact wherever I see comments on CTE.

CTE is not correlated with the number of concussions. It's correlated with years of exposure to repetitive minor hits. It's a very important distinction because the NFL (and every other professional sport with blows to the head) is trying to push the narrative that concussion is the boogeyman, so that if they can reduce concussion (and they can), they can declare their hands clean from CTE. The only way to reduce CTE is drastic changes to the game.

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[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wayne wasn't the subject of very many hits in hockey. CTE isn't a factor that you can blame. As it goes with shit stains, everyone around him probably has the CTE as they were collateral damage, guys like Dave Semenko (it's never been publically disclosed but he was post-mortem investigated for it after dying of cancer) or Marty McSorley (who is not dead but he states he has memory loss and other symptoms).

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

One of my best friends is from Brantford, huge hockey nut and a big Gretzky fan and man this must sting her so bad and it's understandable. Gotta be so frustrating.

As one of the "Lemieux is the GOAT" crowd... LOL

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not from Brantford, but I'm from SOnt, and he was a god to a kid in the 80s. I remember fighting every ounce of my energy trying to stay up to watch the late night games as a little tiny kid. I remember saying as a 3 or 4 year old that I'm going to Edmonton when I grow up, I'm going to work and watch Wayne Gretzky (and it's funny how that almost actually played out, but I got the wrong city). It breaks my fucking heart. You broke our hearts Wayne. Never meet your heroes they say, and it's a funny saying because most of my heroes have actually turned out to be pretty stand up in person too. All but one.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Brantford is the most MAGA place in Canada outside of Alberta. Worst drunk driving and domestic violence rates in Southern Ontario.

Lemieux still isn't the goat. Gretzky sucks hot ass, fuck the guy thoroughly and completely. But you can't take his stats away. There's plenty of athletes who have done impressive feats of athleticism and are still total pieces of shit.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

And this is news?

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

Make Apathetic Gretzky American.

I think Walter would be ashamed, I knew him personally from his charity work and he was a good man, a true Canadian and pretty opinionated in his own quiet way. I'm glad he didn't live to see his son involved in and downplaying this shit. I can't imagine how he would've felt good about it. Money and celebrity (and as someone else suggested, maybe CTE too) corrupts some people. It seems Wayne is one of those.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is dumb piece of shit.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

Traitor to the core. Orr, too.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

He was Canadian when he was Great... now he is garbage and became MAGA

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Do some people still doubt this?

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At least he doesn’t own a coffee shop chain

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 weeks ago

Party time. Excellent.

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[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lol @ anyone who thinks wealthy people are on our side.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

Jarome Iginla was always my hero.

[–] Coriba@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

There is a significant percentage of Canadians who wish to be American. I’ve known several. I don’t understand it. I’m expat American.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, so, this was where the puck was going?

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, I've started getting (more) annoyed at the people that say "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Mostly because fuck anyone who is MAGA. But I've also always found it to be a stupid quote. Gretzky was more of a set up player than a goal scorer. In the hockey world, idiots quote him as an excuse for making a pass.

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