this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2025
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Fuck AI

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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 60 points 4 months ago

There is no wrong way to use it considering they want everyone hooked on it. So it's their fault. Under ZERO circumstances would I ever say an LLM company is ever in the clear for their LLM guiding people towards killing themselves, no matter what they claim.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If a teen can bypass safety measures on your software that easily then they don’t work 🤷‍♂️

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Erm… actually, teenagers bypass security measures better than most adults.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

‘That easily’ = having a conversation with it while suicidal, not trying to break it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I doubt that's the case anymore. Sure, the "kid tech genius" trope had it's day from the 80s to early 2000s, but now not so much There was this window of time where the tech could work wonders but was hard to use and demanded a great deal of understanding to get that wondrous benefit. Older folks had no time to get used to it, but young people had nothing better to do.

Now tech is accessible enough that you don't need to understand it so well, so younger folks don't learn it as much. Time mucking with it now competes with essentially limitless video and text content.

The millennial/younger Gen x partially met that expectation (most of them also didn't really understand tech either, just the ones that did were pretty blatant), but not anymore.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 34 points 4 months ago

”Holding your phone wrong” moment?

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

I find this particular argument strange:

"Dude had suicidal thoughts/machinations long before he used Chatgtp"

So.... You're saying that this person was in crisis for awhile, but managed to not kill himself UNTIL he used your service which helped him plan it?

How .. how is that a reasonable argument?

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh, that's not a lawsuit in the making...Ugh, I can't wait for AI to lose all its staunch supporters.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's not even real ai either, just generative machine learning that outputs what we think we like based on a prompt. No prompt, no response, not intelligent

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 16 points 4 months ago

Yeah, which is what really grinds my gears; people let these techbros get away with shaping the narrative about their dressed up LLMs that aren't ever going to be intelligent. LLMs themselves can be useful for stuff, but they will never be a swiss army knife that can be used for anything. True AI, is going to be the product of proper research and investment of effort from multiple disciplines; neuroscience, psychology, and other tech fields will need to work together to manifest something that is artificially intelligent.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

it is AI, just not "AGI" or whatever word that implies it's extremely capable of everything. We even call those algorithms that play chess "AI".

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 4 months ago

Real AI was invented in the 70s and it's called expert systems

[–] ThefuzzyFurryComrade@pawb.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that’s not a lawsuit in the making…

The article is talking about one of the ongoing lawsuits against the company.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago

My mistake, commenting on the internet while tipsy, is...A choice. I forgot to read this article.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I'm sure then it should be placed under the mature section of the app store, after proper age verification and proper and repeated warnings about how this app can get you killed. I'm sure it will be great for their business.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And they call AI a soulless machine..

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

God made man in his own image, something something...

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I don't know why you guys are complaining about falling into the mechanical looms, the rules clearly say to not do that.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago

"AI" is an exercise in ignoring Mary Shelley's warning.

That poor kid. My heart goes out to his family.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I remember when this happened, I think i commented something like "While chatgpt enabled this behavior and these sorts of things will continue to happen, the parents needed to be more attentive especially to his internet behavior, this is on them just as much."

I still feel that way, but damn, this is such an idiotic take from openai. Chatgpt as far as im aware is still the biggest llm app, and it still has these issues.

"Its the boys fault for killing himself." What a truly powerful take from the world's dumbest company that enabled the act of suicide. Morons.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Looks like we can thin our own herd now