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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

New York Times asks the question on everyone's minds: Is ChatGPT Conscious?

The piece is, unsurprisingly, a complete pile of hot garbage, openly refusing to recognise the difference between lying machines and human beings. This is probably Pivot material.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 4 hours ago

From the r/SunoAI subreddit: "Sick of having to come up with prompts".

Hey y’all, looking for some tips here. I like what I’ve made so far with Suno but now I’m kind of hitting a wall with ideas for prompts. Why doesn’t Suno also have a feature to write prompts for you? Like just hit a button the says “new prompt” and then hit make song when it comes up with something that sounds interesting! Thoughts?

(Via Dan of the Year.)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago

New sneer popped up lamenting AI's intrusion into hacker spaces. Red site is having a normal one about it

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

back on my posting sorta off topic shit: well, we’ve talked a bit about anti-academia nutters, so here’s a developing story about (western) academia having a normal one.

Headline: Oxford’s Rafflesia Messaging Sparks Debate Over Representation, Scientific Credit, and Global South Visibility

My summary: in an announcement, oxford performs erasure by only really naming researchers from oxford amongst a team where most of the contributions were from southeast asian researchers.

Pastor Malabrigo Jr. and Adriane B. Tobias are listed as the first and second authors, while other authors are from the University of the Philippines Los Baños, Indonesia’s National Research and Innovation Agency (BRIN), Bogor Botanical Gardens, University of Bengkulu, and Forest Research Institute Malaysia. The Author Contributions section also shows that Southeast Asian researchers wrote most of the country-specific content, compiled distribution data, and produced scientific figures. Yet none of these appear in the Oxford press release as scientific authorities.

This article is by “scientific watchdog” with a “.id” domain, which is Indonesian. Seems a little bespoke for the article, but, hey, all the facts are verifiable.

I'm going to laugh if they try to spin it as "we're not being racist, we just wanted to get as much institutional clout as possible and avoided prominently featuringanyone from other institutions!"

[–] corbin@awful.systems 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ziz was arraigned on Monday, according to The Baltimore Banner. She apparently was not very cooperative:

As the judge asked basic questions such as whether she had read the indictment and understood the maximum possible penalties, [Ziz] LaSota chided the “mock proceedings” and said [US Magistrate Douglas R.] Miller was a “participant in an organized crime ring” led by the “states united in slavery.”

She pulled the Old Man from Scene 24 gag:

Please state your name for the record, the court clerk said. “Justice,” she replied. What is your age? “Timeless.” What year were you born? “I have been born many times.”

The lawyers have accepted that sometimes a defendant is uncooperative:

Prosecutors said the federal case would take about three days to try. Defense attorney Gary Proctor, in an apparent nod to how long what should have been a perfunctory appearance on Monday ended up taking, called the estimate “overly optimistic.”

Folks outside the USA should be reassured that this isn't the first time that we've tried somebody with a loose grasp of reality and a found family of young violent women who constantly disrupt the trial; Ziz isn't likely to walk away.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago

She wants to be a martyr so bad, doesn't she? She desperately needs to be punished for the sake of her beliefs (and the things she did made others do). All for the great cause of… uh… y'know, the important thing she's being silenced for. Things like that.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago

it happened again, I Posted. dash of thread to it too. some of y’all may enjoy

and yes that capital P is load bearing

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"Enjoy" this toxic stew of prediction markets, racism, and the objectifying of women:

https://protos.com/polymarket-criticized-for-racist-post-targeting-fake-baddies/

Twitter adds default country tags. Immediately finds a whole bunch of foreign bots agitating about US politics. Promptly ignores that in order to be racist.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Saw this quality nickname for prompt receivers: Chet Jippity

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This bounced off of the earlier stub about LLM recipes to create a new cooking show: Chef Jippity. The contestants are all sous chefs at a new restaurant, with the head of the kitchen being some dumbass who blindly follows the instructions of an LLM. Can you work around the robot to create edible food or will Chef Jippity run this whole thing into the ground and lose everyone their jobs? Find out Thursday on Food Network!

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 1 points 5 hours ago

Deceased: sous chefs

Increased: sue chefs

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In French, ChatGPT sounds like « Chatte, j'ai pété » meaning "Pussy, I farted".

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

An unnamed OSS project had its license vandalized by AI:

Its currently unnamed to avoid naming-and-shaming any specific devs, but its probably a Mozilla project that was affected.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bloomberg covers the disastrous impact of AI upon food recipes, while still putting an "AI overview" on the top of the page...

In interviews, 22 independent food creators said that AI-generated “recipe slop” is distorting nearly every way people find cooking advice online, damaging their businesses while causing consumers to waste time and money.

Across the internet, writers say their vetted recipes are hidden by the flood. Pinterest feeds are stuffed with AI-generated images of food that the attached instructions won’t achieve; Google’s AI Overviews surface error-filled cooking steps that siphon away clicks from professionals. Meanwhile, Facebook content farms use AI-generated images of supposedly delicious but impossible dishes to the top of people’s feeds, in an attempt to turn any clicks into ad revenue.

All of this, food bloggers say, erodes the simple promise of a recipe: that someone has actually cooked it before you have. To Gargano, this is the core issue. “No matter how clever the AI is,” she said in a recent interview, “it can never actually test a recipe in a real kitchen and see how it works.”

[...]

For Carrie Forrest, who runs Clean Eating Kitchen, AI has been devastating: 80% of her traffic — and her revenue — has disappeared in two years. Although the views started dropping when OpenAI’s ChatGPT was released, it wasn’t until Google launched AI Mode in search that her traffic collapsed, she said. Since then, she’s gone from employing about ten people to letting everyone go. “I’m going to have to find something else to do.”

This holiday season is on track to be Forrest’s slowest in years. She fears that if more content creators give up, the AI won’t have new content to draw from — except content generated by AI. It may get to a point where “AI is just talking to itself,” and home cooks are gambling with the results, she said.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think we already lost the plot when we started relying on a centralized entity (Google) to "index the world's information and make it useful". Ad-tech already fucked up all of the incentives, making recipe sites fill their pages with bullshit in hopes of wiping my eyeballs with messages from third parties hungry for attention. I fucking hate this world.

I saw this food on social media the other day which was allegedly caused by a Chat-GPT recipe: https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/1p60tfw/my_wife_tried_a_chatgpt_crockpot_recipe/

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fourth episode of our podcast about historical misogynist and bigoted texts, odium symposium, is out now. We discuss classic british racist enoch powell and his “rivers of blood” speech.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/144105193

(it should be available on every platform)

Finally had a chance to listen, continuing to enjoy it greatly and commenting here in liu of having patreon money.

I feel like some of what you talk about with Powell's libertarian economics contrasting with his racist cultural chauvinism seems to tie in with our good friends in silicon valley and the way their libertarianism seems to have moved so swiftly into technofascism and getting on board with The Guy. Being openly racist appears to have been almost like the missing piece that ties it into an internally consistent political project.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Based Linux is another non-Woke option if you want a Debian based system that supports systemd, Wayland, XLibre and the GNU tools.

Do... do you think he realizes that Debian is "woke"?

Also I wonder what his beef with Rust is? Is Rust woke?

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also I wonder what his beef with Rust is? Is Rust woke?

I've seen this before. There is a special type of person out there who feels emasculated (yeah it's always men, isn't it) by the idea of a language statically enforcing memory-safety. Because, you know, real men write C or C++ with no safety rope and no seatbelt, juggling with raw pointers and chainsaws with their bare hands. They think that the only reason why C/C++ has produced an infinite abundance of bugs and security holes is because other programmers just suck. But they are different, they can handle it, they are very clever after all. And they won't let some wusses take away their powers with all these ideas of memory safety by design.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 14 hours ago

Rust is the tr*ns language with programmer socks, you see

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

As a C++ programmer some Rust people can come on a little strong, as if I've never thought about the importance of memory safety before and don't know how to write secure code (well excuse me for building on top of decades of libraries that no one thought to write in rust in the '80s).

But that's normal programmer flame war stuff. Rust people tend to be young and enthusiastic about security which is all good.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I was only describing a specific kind of person, certainly wasn't trying to imply that C/C++ devs generally have no care for security!

Oh yeah I got that no worries.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

pretty much every programming language discussion I’ve ever been in has at least one person come in with a chip on their shoulder, ready to burn down civilisation in the name of readability or ease of use or memory safety or what have you.

IMO it’s an abyss staring thing; you spend enough time in the code mines and you’ll discover some gleaming orb of fascination. Hypothetically this is cured by grass touching. I have been both places.

That is why I’m proud to announce my new, everything safe programming language: C’thlaglthorp, or Ctt for short.

⠀̸͓͑̌͆͜

T̷̡̬͖͓̲͒ĥ̴̼͑͗̏͗̐e̴̡̧̦̘̘͉̮̠͍͕̩̫̐̎̎̃͆̄͗̇̂̋́̕͠͝ͅ ̴̧̭͎̮̯̥̣̻͍̫͇̼̪̅̋̈́̃̈̾̆̀̓̓͊͂͝ă̵̧̨͎͓͇̦̝͖͎̓̿͠b̸̨̮͚̣̪̪̪͉̮̙͇͎̍͗̕ý̸̘̘ş̷̣̲͙͓̫̎̿̍̈́͛͗́́͝s̶̞̣͖̼̓̅̀̀̉́̃̈́̾̋̄̎͐̀͘͠ ̸͓̈̔͒̽͝w̵̨͚͖̟͚͇̠̘̻͍͕̲̯͍̑́̀͗́̋̀́͛͜͜͠ĭ̸̳̜̰̥̘̟̠̈́͜l̴̡̧̝̣̂͌̿̍̍̿̋l̶̳̙̰̱̫͉̥̃̇̌̂́̈́́͜ ̵̧̤̻̗͈͓̫̮̳͐͊̀̔̍̈̈́̋͂̚͝k̴̨̛͕̠͇͓̝̝̻̘̱͔̫̰̆͂̌̂̀̂̑̈̋͝͠ĕ̷̯̥̝̟̓̓͑̀ę̵̡̨̨͕͍͔̮͂͋̈̍͒̿͛p̸͇̥̺̅͋͐̿͑̿̎͐̈́͛͝͠ ̶̡̟̫͍̲̗͖̓́̽̐̀̀̇̿͝ÿ̴̢̨͚̟̘̼̭͓̘̲̫̮̩̠̺͉̀͜ớ̶̢̪̤͉͎̟̻̩̣̹̬̈́̅̉̈́͂̓̎͌̾͗̓̕͠u̶̗̥͔̹̝̦͕͎͎͍̹͓͕̾̑́ ̷͍̓̃̏̐̄̒̿̅͂̎̉̈́̚s̵̠̭̠͈̖̺͕̬̞͖̫̿̊́̾̾̕̕ͅá̵̯͓͙͕̉͛͌͛̋̕͘f̶̢̛͈͎̥̗̫͇͕̘̦̙̋̇̓̍̊̋͆̓̈͐̚̚͘͜ͅȩ̷͙̝̳̲̈́̽̈́̍̐͝͠

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 14 hours ago

People who dislike C'thlaglthorp tend to come in two camps: the ones that prefer significant whitespace and the ones that don't.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Linux puritans are as fissile as the OG Puritans. There's already Devuan which is Debian minus systemd, and now with XLibre. Not sure why this nerd thinks his particular non-denominational chapel will bring in the crowds to hear him sermonize.

Edit BTW Devuan for me is the epitome of FLOSS techfash.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

Also I wonder what his beef with Rust is? Is Rust woke?

Rust has a Code of Conduct and is allegedly highly popular among trans programmers, so you're likely on the money

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looking at their Twitter and it's apparently going to use GNOME. Wonder how that's going to work with GNOME removing X11 support.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's probably going to just use an ancient version, if this thing ever even gets made.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Imagine devoting your precious life to making MATE for GNOME 3.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

this is very fashtech coded, happy to be proven wrong though.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

It is, that's why I was sharing it. I probably should have made that clear.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, at least the website isn't vibe-coded. Considering the creator's an out-and-proud promptfondler (as seen on his Twitter), that's genuinely shocking.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

I honestly don't know how these people are comfortable posting those things with their real name and face attached.

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