Soyweiser

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It isnt just causing unemployment, it is also causing drinkable water and energy problems. And apparently there might already be a wace of workers setting fire to warehouses going on in the usa (which is not being reported on if it is, not sure of it is an actual thing btw, but saw somebody on social media say the warehouse fires which they were tracking went from 100 to 150 in a short period. I do not know enough to say if this is real or somebody mistaking normal accidents with a revolution, i assume it is the former. The one fire I saw reported was due to a cost of living thing btw).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That is still very high for pulp science fiction.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I thought about it, and I don't think I have any real questions, first I hope your are ok. But that isn't really a question. And secondly I was thinking about how a lot of questions I could ask feel more about me wanting to after a group I dislike than helping a victim out. Even a question like 'Did their internal processes give you support and some justice at least?' is answered by you coming here and offering this AMA.

So, the questions I more have is are you ok? And do you currently have a support network that is helping you out with things?

And for the rest I just think that if you feel like there are things you want to share you should share those (I think looking at your post you seem to want to talk about the harm reduction methods at those events, but not sure. Any important lessons we could take from that?) but don't want to pressure people into that, and also don't think I personally can totally do justice to the severity of situations like that. (which is of course on the problems with the discourse around SA).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

It is amusing how all these genAI things still get stuck in loops.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

George lucas has entered the chat.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah the first AI comes in all nice and friendly but if you dont toss them out before you know it you turn out to he an AI bar.

(Also noticed that a lot of 'I just want some nuanced talks' friendly looking ai bros are not friendly at all when they keep getting pushback).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

freshwater

This reminded me of a few old comic stories were eventually the robot/computer was partially running on blood.

(One of them was a judge dredd one where they had vampire robots who iirc used the blood to keep a president in suspended animation alive. Snap, Crackle and Pop, it had a suprisingly wholesome ending for a dredd comic).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago

Think it is a geek/nd failure mode tbh.

I have also done something like that in some messy situations and it was eye-opening when people just told me 'dude, I dont want to be involved, and thus dont care', obv a bit different than this case (as the people here do seem to care), but it made me realize I was stupidly trying to explain myself to people and hoping that helped with the issue/emotional issues coming from that issue.

Hell part of this 'people will see my side if I explain it' is one of the reasons some instances got defederated.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol, yeah, didnt check awful for a day and this escalated. Well done on all the mods for keeping us informed what is going on btw.

What a great example of how not to react when caught in a controversy by the db0 crew.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago

Ow god vox day. That dweeb.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the phrase “magic dirt” sounds real familiar.

Same for me but also cant recall the reference.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

As we don't have a top level post about this already (nor on reddit) I thought why not make one. Archive.is

Extremely likely the guy was a lesswronger, or at least radicalized by that sort of thinking.

But not much else seems to be known as far as I can tell. Corbin also posted about the HN reactions in the stubsack.

And remember, no fed posting.

Edit: looks like his house also got shot. Archive (after the speculation in this thread, makes you wonder if this was a follow up false flag, as the bottle didn't break last time).

 

Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

 

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

 

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

 

Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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