As an update, the original author received sufficient negative feedback and abuse that they’ve closed the repo and decided to give open source and social media a bit of a rest for the foreseeable future. Hopefully the projects they’ve created and been working on will live on, but it is quite a loss to the community either way.
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I feel like one day that “no guarantee of merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose” thing will have to give.
Python at least has the advantage that there are a bunch of ides and fancy text editors out there (with varying degrees of llm integration), so if one doesn’t work for you there are alternatives. Fwiw, there are several different language servers as well, though I’m not sure how easy they are to swap in codium.
I’ve been using zed of late. It has an ai killswitch, which is good enough for my needs which are a bit less hardline than the authors of the slopware list, and also helix which is nice but a very different sort of tool.
There’s room for some nuance there. They make some reasonable predictions, like chatbot use seems likely to enter the dsm as a contributing factor for psychosis, and they’re all experience systems programmers who immediately shot down Willison when he said that an llm-generated device driver would be fine, because device drivers either obviously work or obviously don’t, but then fall foul of the old gell-mann amnesia problem.
Certainly, their past episodes have been good, and the back catalogue stretches back quite some time, but I'm not particularly interested in that sort of discussion here.
My gloomy prediction is that (b) is the way things will go, at least in part because there are fewer meaningful consequences for producing awful software, and if you started from something that was basically ok it’ll take longer for you to fail.
Startups will be slopcoded and fail quick, or be human coded but will struggle to distinguish themselves well enough to get customers and investment, especially after the ai bubble pops and we get a global recession.
The problems will eventually work themselves out of the system one way or another, because people would like things that aren’t complete garbage and will eventually discover how to make and/or buy them, but it could take years for the current damage to go away.
I don’t like being a doomer, but it is hard to be optimistic about the sector right now.
Eh, it works okay for me. What’s “the language server” in this case? The third party c# language server isn’t great, but I’ve had no particular issues with python, julia, lean4, rust, dafny and tla+. I can’t recommended (vs)codium because it is a monstrous memory hog, and even in its de-microsofted form it’ll be full of vide-coding, but where there aren’t good alternatives is gets a solid “it’ll do” from me.
If that won’t sell it to governments around the world, I don’t know what will. Elon’s on to a winner with that strategy.
Ugh, I carried to listening to the episode in the hopes it might get better, but it didn’t deliver.
I don’t understand how people can say, with a straight face, that ai isn’t coming for your job and it is just going to make everyone more productive. Even if you ignore all the externalities of providing llm services (which is a pretty serious thing to ignore), have they not noticed the vast sweeping layoffs in the tech industry alone, let alone the damage to other sectors? They seem to be aware that the promise of the bubble is that agi will replace human labour, but seem not to think any harder about that.
Also, Willison thinks that a world without work would be awful, and that people need work to give their lives meaning and purpose and bruh. I cannot even.
Been listening to the latest oxide and friends podcast (predictions 2026), and ugh, so much incoherent ai boosting.
They’re an interesting company doing interesting things with a lot of very capable and clever engineers, but every year the ai enthusiasm ramps up, to the point where it seems like they’re not even listening to the things they’re saying and how they’re a little bit contradictory… “everyone will be a 10x vibe coder” and “everything will be made with some level of llm assistance in the near future” vs “no-one should be letting llms access anything where they could be doing permanent damage” and “there’s so much worthless slop in crates.io”. There’s enthusing over llm law firms, without any awareness of the recent robin ai collapse. Talk of llms generating their own programming language that isn’t readily human readable but is somehow more convenient for llms to extrude, but also talking about the need for more human review of vibe code. Simon Willison is there.
I feel like there’s a certain kind of very smart and capable vibe coder who really cannot imagine how people can and are using these tools to avoid having to think or do anything, and aren’t considering what an absolute disaster this is for everything and everyone.
Anyway, I can recommend skipping this episode and only bothering with the technical or more business oriented ones, which are often pretty good.
That’s horrifying. The whole thing reads like an over-elaborate joke poking fun at vibe-coders.
It’s like someone looked at the javascript ecosystem of tools and libraries and thought that it was great but far too conservative and cautious and excessively engineered. (fwiw, yegge kinda predicted the rise of javascript back in the day… he’s had some good thoughts on the software industry, but I don’t think this latest is one of them)
So now we have some kind of meta-vibe-coding where someone gets to play at being a project manager whilst inventing cutesy names and torching huge sums of money… but to what end?
Aside from just keeping Gas Town on the rails, probably the hardest problem is keeping it fed. It churns through implementation plans so quickly that you have to do a LOT of design and planning to keep the engine fed.
Apart from a “haha, turns out vide coding isn’t vibe engineering” (because I suspect that “design” and “plan” just mean “write more prompts and hope for the best”) I have to ask again: to what end? what is being accomplished here? Where are the great works of agentic vibe coding? This whole thing just seems like it could have been avoided by giving steve a copy of factorio or something, and still generated as many valuable results.
How about some quantum sneering instead of ai for a change?
They keep calling it a 'processor,' but it's actually a refrigerated probability sculpture they beg to act like it Is a NAND gate for just half a microsecond
“Refrigerated probability sculpture” is outstanding.
Photo is from the recent CCC, but I can’t find where I found the image, sorry.

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A photograph of a printed card bearing the text:
STOP DOING QUANTUM CRYPTOANALYSIS
- DECADES of research and billions in funding, yet the largest number a quantum computer quantum physics experiment has ever factorized remains a terrifying 21
- They keep calling it a 'processor,' but it's actually a refrigerated probability sculpture they beg to act like it Is a NAND gate for just half a microsecond - fever dreams of the QUANTUM CULT
- The only countdown ticking toward Y2Q is researchers counting the years of funding they can squeeze out of it
- Harvest now, decrypt later: because someday quantum computers will unlock the secret... that all the encrypted traffic was just web scrapers feeding Al model training
- Want to hack a database? No need to wait for some Quantum Cryptocalypse, Just ask it politely with 'OR 1=1'
(I can’t actually read the final bit, so I can’t describe it for you, apologies)
They have played us for absolute fools.
A fun little software exercise with no real world uses at all: https://drewmayo.com/1000-words/about.html
Turns out that if you stuff the right shaped bytes into png image tEXt chunks (which don’t get compressed), the base64 encoded form of that image has sections that look like human readable text.