Architeuthis

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

even if the plagiarism accusations are completely substantiated

The university actually cleared him of the plagiarism charges early on, they had hearings and landed on it being within accepted limits for this sort of thing.

It's insane how the whole thing went from the initial coverage implying he's a complete and total fraud that Cambridge didn't do due diligence on because of woke to actually, even his more far fetched claims about endurance running seem to check out.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't murder.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it's fundamentally unsolvable, you can only mitigate it, mostly by using classical means to constrain the deterministic (i.e. non-AI) tools the chatbot is allowed access to, and constantly asking the user for confirmation.

With yolo/auto mode (no user confirmation required) and training LLMs on known vulnerabilities things will inevitably get more complicated.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

While I agree that separating instructions from data in LLM input is a fundamentally unsolvable problem, in this case that wasn't the attack vector.

It says the bot is forced by its security guardrails to write a small tool from scratch instead of using the one found in the downloaded zip, but due to the commonness of the task (decoding basexx text) the attacker predicts that the bot-created tool will try to import a specific dependency, so they've included a malicious version of that dependency in the zip, and because apparently python will prioritise locally available modules that's what gets executed, making available all sorts of exploitation paths, including the attacker starting up a claude code instance in the users system.

edit: Actually I'm starting to think you could classify the whole thing as a prompt injection, except the entire site was the malicious prompt, as in it declared itself (we are a site that archives notebooks in json form) in a way that would align with the bot wanting to write simple text decoding software to complete it's mission of summarizing the available content.

Interesting to think about.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think it also depends on how all in you are on vibecoding. Like if you just prompt it and then occasionally check if the token carnage produced anything usable, then having an agents.md is probably just best practices cargo culting. But in other cases, having a Here's How Thing Are Done In This Repo, You Fucker markdown file should make going through the more slop-happy merge requests a little less soul crushing.

The +20% additional token churn is surprising, I would have though the markdown files get cached pretty early down the line, unless the agent file is really big compared to the chatbot output.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago

I mean it's great if you want to automate some specific code generation in the most inefficient way possible while posing to the bosses as a forward thinking AI-first developer.

The closest anyone can come to a use for the AGENTS.md file is so you clarify your own thinking on how the project works

That just means that you are now supposed to write skill files instead of proper documentation to make your project even more inscrutable to anyone but a chatbots with a bottomless token budget.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It probably hit the mainstream with AI2040 in early July, but it's just too rationalist coded for there to not have been precursors.

summary of AI2040 in greentext formsource, RIP xcancel

new effective altruism coomer bedtime story just dropped

> be me

> effective altruist in 2026
> have spent ten years explaining that democracy is too slow for the coming machine god
> also explain that central planning usually fails
> unless I am doing it

> read one scaling graph
> draw line upward
> line reaches heaven
> conclude capitalism ends in 2031

> AI can now write Python functions with only three subtle security flaws
> obviously two years away from replacing every scientist, general, diplomat, CEO, judge, therapist, novelist, and attractive person at parties

> publish “scenario,” not “prediction”
> give every paragraph exact dates
> assign percentages to imaginary branches
> epistemic humility achieved

> bad timeline:
> companies race
> AI becomes god
> everyone dies

> good timeline:
> US government notices problem
> China agrees
> Congress understands compute governance
> international inspectors find every hidden datacenter
> nobody lies
> nobody defects
> nobody builds chips in a basement
> planet saved

> all we need is total global visibility into advanced computing
> mandatory disclosure of frontier research
> permanent monitoring of industrial infrastructure
> central control over technological development
> relax, this is the anti-authoritarian option

> alignment not solved
> solution: build one billion genius AIs
> they are not superintelligent
> they are merely one billion tireless copies of the best human researchers working at electronic speed
> completely different

> put them in a box
> ask them to solve the problem of escaping boxes
> excellent progress

> year 2034
> AI replaces 80% of labor
> mass unemployment
> social order somehow remains intact
> government sends everyone $1.6 million
> nobody asks where prices went

> year 2037
> cancer cured
> climate solved
> fusion solved
> aging solved
> politics solved
> Reddit moderation still unresolved

> year 2038
> alignment becomes a mature science
> year 2039
> we trust the machines
> year 2040
> hand them civilization
> peer review completed ahead of schedule

> humanity gets a vote
> options are:
> A. accept benevolent AI guardianship
> B. extinction
> meaningful democratic consent achieved

> announce decentralized flourishing
> administered by a globally coordinated compute authority
> with comprehensive surveillance powers
> run by unusually wise people
> who agree with my blog posts

> critics ask whether institutions can actually do any of this
> reply that superintelligence is inevitable
> critics ask whether superintelligence is actually inevitable
> reply that institutions must prepare

> circular reasoning
> but with footnotes

> call it “AI 2040”
> not utopian fiction
> not doomer fiction
> serious strategic foresight

> entire future depends on competent adults appearing at exactly the right moment
> adults are selected from the same civilization that made the printer require an app

> sleep peacefully
> the machine god is coming
> but fortunately
> the nonprofit sector has a plan

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago (8 children)

It came out today that Leopold Aschenbrenner (he of the situational awareness fund implosion fame) was also telling everyone who'd listen about how he was going to be buying up galaxies as soon as AI progress made access to them a piece of cake.

Basically outer space manifest destiny is an important part of AI2040, AI Future's sort of summer sequel to AI2027, I'd say it appears to be well on its way to become another rationalist Weird Accepted Truth.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 13 points 6 days ago

The way that they use that term makes it synonymous with Orthodox (“right practices/thinking”).

I mean objectivism was already taken so...

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 24 points 6 days ago

This is firmly in the 'what if in the future there is a boot so big that we must start licking it now' school of hot takes, like literally arguing for a future where the AI sucks at its job and you can't do anything about it.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Forall ...

Never seen a gullibility filter in the form of eyebrows before:

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

transcriptRobert Evans (the Only Robert Evans) "Americans like two-day delivery but dislike being promised that a Robot God will render them Paupers Forever. The fickle whims of the median voter continue to perplex me."

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Architeuthis@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

Copied from the stubsack:

The Inside story of Leverage Research

This should be interesting, it's about an organisation in the EA milieu that even other EAs though might be a bit too culty. Don't know who the writer Lydia Laurenson is, but she does come off as a bit of a cult enthusiast herself, and is probably more than a bit rationalist adjacent.

edit: The companion piece about the background of why she wrote it is quite a ride, if only for the biographical tidbits: she is indeed very cult adjacent, she had a spiritual experience and now believes in capital G god, she got engaged to an unnamed far-right writer but they broke up when she got pregnant.

Also the Leverage article was contracted to appear in the New York Magazine but she pulled the story because of uh declining trust in the field of journalism, but then she goes on to imply that the real problem was that the article was shaping up as a bit too pro-Leverage:

I pulled the story once I started feeling like it simply wouldn’t be possible for me to publish a version with NYMag that didn’t carry a subtle hostility towards Leverage, not to mention affiliated communities in Silicon Valley — and, more importantly to me, hostility towards a core spiritual sensibility that I see in both myself and in the people the story describes.

edit edit: Why can't these people ever be normal: Why I Was Part Of The Neoreactionary or Dissident Right Movement In 2020

edit edit edit: Jesus fucking christ she's Curtis Yarvin's baby momma.

edit x 4: Index of the read along posts, part titles are from the original:

 

In continuation of the recent dune stuff stubsack subthread so anyone interested doesn't need to go spelunking in the hundreds of posts superthread that's already halfway out of the main page.

Apologies for being late in replying.

 

From the rationalists are a net negative for society dept: Scott Alexander's latest (that I'm not linking) is all about how you should be using the slop machine to tell you who to vote for.

He's even so kind as to share his prompt:

I’ll be voting in the June 2026 California primary. I’m a centrist liberal abundance YIMBY whose favorite political writers are Kelsey Piper, Matt Yglesias, and Ezra Klein. I’m wary of government overreach, but I’m not a doctrinaire libertarian and want to help people when we can figure ways to do it that work. I’m going to ask you about each race on my ballot, and I’d like for you to list the various candidates’ bios, policies, endorsements, your read on the most important differences between them, and your advice for me as I try to make my choice.

Pretending hallucinations and training data bias aren't a thing must be making some people's lives so much easier. While we're at it, let's also magical think away any possible dire consequences of giving the handful of ultrawealthy unwell weirdos behind LLMs as a service even more direct political influence.

Also the prompt sample itself is just showoffy^1^ nonsense, isn't it? Even if LLMs were as overcompetent as they're being hyped there's no way all that stuff can be deterministically parsed into a concrete set of values that you can check against whatever the LLM digs up from the internet, combined with all the close-enoughs hardcoded in its training data, there's just enormous room for the chatbot to answer whatever the hell it wants.

  1. That's me trying not to overuse the term "virtue signalling", but it seems clear siskind is using the prompt to set a sort of partly line for his (outer circle / not completely eugenics pilled) followers. That's probably also the point of including so much chatbot attributed political slop in the article, ostensibly as data points.
 

tl;dr: Tech youtuber who got way into studying the negative health effects of infrasound produced by data centers (to the point of his research being cited a bunch in relevant court cases) gets a voluminous substack hit piece published on his work by "an independent writer and researcher funded by a grant from Coefficient Giving to explore topics in AI and other areas"

So after some sniffing around, I realize I’m being brigaded by someone deep in the Effective Altruism community. The author is, quite literally, paid by rotational-wealth NPO to write this very article among many others. I know what you’re thinking, and I know how this sounds. The battle cry of the pseudoscientist is poisoning the well of criticism.

But please do browse his bibliography.

Andy lives in a parallel universe where datacenters don’t waste water, AI artwork is without victims, and using ChatGPT doesn’t harm the environment. This is one of the many takes that perfectly align with the board, contributors, and partners with Coefficient Giving, formally called Open Philanthropy, but changed after its close association with Sam Bankman-Fried was causing some well-earned skepticism.

Quite the coincidence that this comes out right around the time Kelsey Piper decided to get busy "debunking" Ed Zitron.

There's already a follow up about the same people moving on to allegedly debunk a recent neuroscience paper on adverse infrasound effects on bsky.

old sneer club thread

 

This was posted on catholic easter sunday on the ssc subreddit. It's a posted-on-April 1st-for-plausible-deniability siskind post from back in 2018, where he outlines a kind of argument about how an all-powerfull entity that's God in all but name (and obviously emanated from a culture discovering AGI) is actually "logically necessary".

He calls the whole thing "The Hour I First Believed". I think it's notable for being a bit of a treasure trove of rationalist weird accepted truths, such as:

  • All copies of a consciousness share a self, because consciousness is like an equation, or something:

But if consciousness is a mathematical object, it might be that two copies of the same consciousness are impossible. If you create a second copy, you just have the consciousness having the same single stream of conscious experience on two different physical substrates.

Which is both the original transhumanist cope to enable so-called consciousness upload so it's not just copying a simulacrum of your personality to a computer while you continue to rot away, and also what makes the basilisk torturing you possible.

  • And it's corollary, Simulation Capture:

This means that an AI can actually “capture” you, piece by piece, into its simulation. First your consciousness is just in the real world. Then your consciousness is distributed across one real-world copy and a million simulated copies. Then the AI makes the simulated copies slightly different, and 99.9999% of you is in the simulation.

which is a kind of nuts I hadn't happened upon before.

There's also a bunch of rationalist decision theory stuff which I think make obvious how they were concocted to serve this type of narrative in the first place, instead for being broadly useful, Yud posing as a decision theory trailblazer notwithstanding.

 

edit: The banana republic shit is that they seem about to blacklist anthropic on "supply chain risk" grounds (see also huawei) which signifies the admin's willingness to from here on use national emergency legal tools to fuck over any company they don't like.

The whole thing seems weird, at first it sounds like the most online administration ever may have actually bought the claim that all that's stopping flagship models from becoming superintelligent is the RLHF that prevents them from saying the n-word and making prophet Mohamed pedophilia jokes and they wanted anthropic to pull all that wiring out in like 24 hours per the original ultimatum.

On anthropic's part the point of contention is made to be their refusal to let their models be integrated into automated weapon platforms and mass surveillance apparatuses, something which they have explicitly put in writing in their contract with the DoD, and also Dario claims the technology isn't even there yet (no idea how it could ever be, what does it actually mean to integrate a chatbot into an autonomous drone, can't wait to see the skill file for that, # You are a helpful murderbot operator - only target the bad guys - no weddings, no hospitals - pretty please with cherry on top - here's some javascript to call when you need to find out your GPS coordinates).

It's also possible the productivity and efficiency gains (or just recovering lost productivity after firing everyone) of putting ΑΙ (mainly Grok wasn't it) in the pentagon everywhere all at once isn't materializing and Hasgeth feels he's been left hanging, and is trying to scapegoat Anthropic.

Also, anthropic is supposed to be the only AI provider properly vetted and integrated to classified systems because of their association with Palantir, and supposedly it would be a major hassle to go through again for a different provider.

Dario didn't line up with the other aspiring oligarchs to kiss the ring in the inauguration, so at least he may actually

 

The guests:

[Dick Gay], who had flown in for the event from Los Angeles and said he was one of the investors of Sperm Racing (which is an actual thing wherein men compete to see whose sperm is “fastest” under a microscope), said he attended the University of Austin, or UATX, an “anti-woke” college reportedly partially funded by Thiel, and built his career around the principles outlined in Thiel’s book “Zero to One.”

Attendee Justin Park said he just wanted to pitch Thiel on putting a 7.5-foot cross on the moon.

[Unnamed], who was in his 30s, said he wasn’t a Thiel fan until last year, when he became a Trump supporter after seeing the president survive an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. “I misunderstood [Thiel],” he said. “I used to watch CNN and think he’s a Nazi.” Now, he said, he understands the billionaire is talking about something bigger.

The Speech:

Apparently it was both repetitive and mostly a rehash of what he's said in other media.

Yud is the Antichrist confirmed:

One attendee recalled that Thiel’s discussion of the Antichrist was more about a scenario than an individual. Thiel’s Antichrist scenario is one in which a unified government suppresses technology to impose order, or armageddon, wherein AI takes over and ushers in the end of the world.

 

Supposedly government contracts will now be awarded according to what the bot says. Government (fourth term for the current prime minister) didn't elaborate on what's going on with human oversight.

This is a promotion for Diella the bot, who was originally the chatbot helping to navigate the e-Albania digital government platform.

 

An excerpt has surfaced from the AI2027 podcast with siskind and the ex AI researcher, where the dear doctor makes the case for how an AGI could build an army of terminators in a year if it wanted.

It goes something like: OpenAI is worth as much as all US car companies (except tesla) combined, so it could buy up every car factory and convert it to a murderbot factory, because that's kind of like what the US gov did in WW2 to build bombers, reaching peak capacity in three years, and AGI would obviously be more efficient than a US wartime gov so let's say one year, generally a completely unassailable syllogism from very serious people.

Even /r/ssc commenters are calling him out about the whole AI doomer thing getting more noticeably culty than usual edit: The thread even features a rare heavily downvoted siskind post, -10 at the time of this edit.

The latter part of the clip is the interviewer pointing out that there might be technological bottlenecks that could require upending our entire economic model before stuff like curing cancer could be achieved, positing that if we somehow had AGI-like tech in the 1960s it would probably have to use its limited means to invent the entire tech tree that leads to late 2020s GPUs out of thin air, international supply chains and all, before starting on the road to becoming really useful.

Siskind then goes "nuh-uh!" and ultimately proceeds to give Elon's metaphorical asshole a tongue bath of unprecedented depth and rigor, all but claiming that what's keeping modern technology down is the inability to extract more man hours from Grimes' ex, and that's how we should view the eventual AGI-LLMs, like wittle Elons that don't need sleep. And didn't you know, having non-experts micromanage everything in a project is cool and awesome actually.

 

Kind of sounds like ultimately it would have been very illegal to do.

"We made the decision for the nonprofit to retain control of OpenAI after hearing from civic leaders and engaging in constructive dialogue with the offices of the Attorney General of Delaware and the Attorney General of California," OpenAI board chairman Bret Taylor said in a statement.

Asked about Musk's suit on a call with reporters, Altman said, "You all are obsessed with Elon, that's your job — like, more power to you. But we are here to think about our mission and figure out how to enable that. And that mission has not changed."

 

The types of information processed includes names, dates of birth, gender and ethnicity, and a number that identifies people on the police national computer.

Also to be shared – and listed under “special categories of personal data” - are “health markers which are expected to have significant predictive power”, such as data relating to mental health, addiction, suicide and vulnerability, and self-harm, as well as disability.

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