It's toilet paper, my biggest concern is price. Besides, I have bidet, I can make a pack of 8 last a year.
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Well, shit...
Here in Czechia there are mandated price per unit, with tp it's iirc price per meter
This is why they have this stupid math on the packaging.
Because if all you look at is price / meter the lowest quality is obviously going to be the cheapest.
If you get 2-ply or 3-ply, it's 2-3 more sheets per meter and much softer. So more expensive per meter, but you can also use less since you can use 4 sheets instead of 8 and get the same softness/padding.
Every toilet paper related thread ever:
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Jokes about paper quality
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Americans describing their upgrade to a bidet like its the second enlightenment
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Europeans feeling superior that they've been using bidets for a couple hundred years
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The one random Asian trying to figure out where did humanity regress and perma downgrade from water to ass scratch material in the western world
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No explanation as to how water users seems to magically dry themselves without tp, heat or air, yet watching a new user come out looking like it rained in the bathroom
And on rare occasions:
- Westerners describing low pressure water cleaning with your hand like it will give you ebola, despite it being objectively more sanitary than toilet paper, and despite the fact that's how bidets used to work
Why are you shitting on the tp aficionados?
Srsly tho how do they dry.
Toilet paper making is an ART! No other industry manages to create a half-ply so transparent that you can read your newspaper through it, while still delivering the tactile experience of an 80 grid industrial sandpaper.
Brother, just spend the few extra bucks and buy name brand, the extra money ain't gonna kill ya. Meanwhile, the TP you seem to buy now might have you bleeding to death from your ass.
That's not my toilet paper, but one I recently had to endure on a non-private toilet. I was just amazed that they can actually produce such a paper. I'm quite attached to my ass and it's wellbeing, so sure I buy the better stuff for me and my family.
No wonder millennials can’t afford a house, with all the avocado toast and 10-ply toilet paper. /s
In my over 50 years, I've never eaten an avocado toast.
The one that lists sheets is at least using a verifiable metric. It's better than the "right rolls of unspecified size are more than 39 different rolls of unspecified size".
Still silly because no one knows how many sheets they use before changing the roll, but at least it's reasonable silly.
Isn't it the same problem tho, since they can make the sheets smaller and say there's more without actually offering a longer roll?
We need legally defined toilet paper roll standards.
yknow what’s great? unit pricing laws
tldr: in australia businesses must display “unit price” on labels: price per 100g, per 100ml, per sheet, etc for every product so that packages are comparable
I use unit pricing every time I shop. I am so thankful the accc made it required.
In Canada at the bottom of the package they will tell you the dimensions of the sheet and sheets per roll or length I can't remember.
You still have to do math but the actual numbers are there for you to do it.
The real answer is just go to Costco and buy one of those giant packs with the massive sheets and don't think too much about it.
Given the information here, I believe that:
1 Giant Roll = 2.25+ Rolls = 2250+ Sheets
1 Double Roll = 2 Rolls = 2000 Sheets
1 Super Mega Roll = 6 Rolls = 6000 Sheets
1000 Sheets = 1 Roll = 0.5 Double Roll = 0.444 Giant Roll = 0.166 Super Mega Roll
1 Super Mega Roll = 2.666 Giant Roll = 3 Double Roll = 6 Roll = 6000 Sheets
This is such bullshit. Pointless manipulation of product offerings to hide the true cost, and thereby manipulate prices. I’ve been doing paper towel math like this for years and it drives me nuts. Grocery stores’ profit model is now almost entirely based on price manipulation and nothing else.
Why not by weight?
They show the price per weight in Denmark.
1 Bidet = paper free for 2 to three years.
When I spray paint watercolor, I don't just wipe my air brush. I wash it over and over in water until all paint is gone.
Although, no one washes canons between canon shots. They wipe the insides with an oily rag. So sure, there are things you wipe off with a dirty rag. So go ahead, keep wiping.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
One of the most vivid arithmetic failings displayed by Americans occurred in the early 1980s, when the A&W restaurant chain released a new hamburger to rival the McDonald's Quarter Pounder. With a third-pound of beef, the A&W burger had more meat than the Quarter Pounder; in taste tests, customers preferred A&W's burger. And it was less expensive. A lavish A&W television and radio marketing campaign cited these benefits. Yet instead of leaping at the great value, customers snubbed it.
Only when the company held customer focus groups did it become clear why. The Third Pounder presented the American public with a test in fractions. And we failed. Misunderstanding the value of one-third, customers believed they were being overcharged. Why, they asked the researchers, should they pay the same amount for a third of a pound of meat as they did for a quarter-pound of meat at McDonald's. The "4" in "¼," larger than the "3" in "⅓," led them astray.
America: Failing 2nd grade math since the 1980s.
Best part is when you go to different store and they got from per sheet to square foot or some nonsense.
I wanna know how many square cubits it is.
Is this unshittification?
That's usually what I use my toilet paper for
I switched to Bamboo toilet paper. Renewable, saves old growth trees, and when bought in bulk online is as cheap as Walmart.
Almost all paper comes from byproducts if the lumber industry or recycled. Its the processes of papermaking that have huge impacts to the environment.
Data? The NRDC says otherwise. They do a report every year on virgin forest use in Canada. https://www.nrdc.org/resources/issue-tissue
For the record, it tracks recycling use, renewable fiber use, and bleaching. I think you're minimizing the impact.
And even individual squares can be larger or smaller than other brands, leading to rolls with more or fewer squares for the same length.
Honestly, it needs to be in the law that any TP needs to specify the number of square meters of TP on the packaging, so that stores - if they post comparison ratios on the price tags - can give a price per square metre for people to compare with.
I just look at the area of paper on the bottom. That's what it boils down to, right? Using standard rolls as some benchmark is meaningless.