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A Chinese immigrant was found dead in U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, with his hands and feet tied behind him, an attorney has alleged.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

“Suicide”

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 38 points 17 hours ago

Cool. We're at the Dictatorship Death Squads Stage.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 32 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I hate guns and always thought open-carry was stupid. I get it now. When government thugs are taking people from the street and "disappearing" them, the rest of the citizens (who won't put up with that crap) need to be ready on the spot, while it is happening.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Isn't this why Americans have so stridently been justifying their need for guns? To protect themselves against tyranny and government overreach? And now it happens they're all like "Ummm. . . You first!"

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

At the time? In a four-against-one situation? They will vaporize you. If you decide to go 2A in the moment of an ICE kidnapping you'll end up a page 12 story and leave your mother without a son. You're not John Wick and they will be ready for you with body armor and better training.

If you want to serve refugee communities there are many, many ways that don't involve the inevitable loss of your own life in extreme, violent ways.

Edit: Be real, real careful when internet tough guys try to encourage you to commit violence. People who really do stuff like this don't talk about it first, so there's a 100% chance what you're reading was posted by a keyboard warrior or a fed.

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Better training? Not from what i’ve seen. They appear to be scared children with guns and cs grenades that go off at any loud noise.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Better funding. Definitely not better training.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Better funding. Their "training" is practically non-existent

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah there's only one kind of whistle for ICE, in my opinion

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Still stupid. Carry a gun and ICE will just murder you.

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 16 hours ago

Murdered on the street or murdered in a detention center, same outcome

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 42 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Luckily ICE is taking the matter very seriously: 

Newsweek asked DHS whether Ge had been tied up and whether it was cooperating with the lawsuit filed in New York. Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin did not answer these questions, but repeated similar messaging on detention deaths: that ICE takes each one seriously and thoroughly investigates them all.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure 🥴

And that's not all, how about this knee-slapper: 

DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, in a statement to Newsweek: “Chaofeng Ge passed away at the Moshannon Valley Processing Center. All in-custody deaths are tragic, taken seriously, and are thoroughly investigated by law enforcement. ICE takes its commitment to promoting safe, secure, humane environments for those in our custody very seriously.”

These fuckers lie through their teeth. I really really hope there is a special circle in hell just for people like this. We've somehow managed to find the most vile humans on the planet and put them in charge.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

"After a thorough investigation, we conclude that we did nothing wrong."

New pig same as the old pig.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

The only hell is the one we make for them. No safety in Argentina.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So every ice kidnappings can now be assumed to be murder.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What's the saying, if you're kidnapped the odds of survival drop dramatically after 48h or something.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Or when you're taken to a second location

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see how that's pertinent. I was more thinking about for bystanders and intervention.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If you're a bystander or intervene, they'll have no qualms arresting you and seeing if they can deport you, and while they do that, they'll withhold live saving medicine, food, and might even hog tie you up apparently, and if they've had you for 48h or more, I'd say your odds are having been murdered by them like this are much higher. If your skin is even remotely not white, you might even be trafficked across state lines before anyone knows you've been kidnapped.

I think if you intervene like you should, you won't be arrested.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago

so it has begun

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 130 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is such a confusing story—how does someone "hog tie" themselves before committing suicide by hanging?

The confusing part is that there's so many details provided but the report just kind of... awkwardly buries those facts underneath a pile of other facts.

Like the story wants to make you believe that this was a case of the jail being so horrific that this person with possible mental health issues killed themself.

You know, rather than focusing on what the conditions of the body's discovery actually imply: he was lynched in jail.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

So youre getting a lot of responses, but everyone is latching on to the word hanging instead of ligature.

These are different things. Ligature does not involve the weight of the body, but a constrictive device on the neck. 3 nooses, one on hands, feet, and neck, would make you fully mobile until the rope was pulled.

Suspicious, definately. Should this place exist? No. Insane to be happening in a prison, definately. Unheard of? No.

The confusing part is the use of hanging, as that is a very different form of strangulation.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An autopsy report seen by Newsweekshowed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position.

Ah yes the ‘ol’ he shot himself in the back of the head type of suicide.

The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

And apparently it’s an epidemic in that prison. Multiple people tying their own hands and feet behind their backs and then hanging themselves. And of course since they couldn’t / didn’t fight back it could only be self inflicted, that’s the only solution to this conundrum here.

It’s truly mystifying how any detention facility can let someone leave their room, create three nooses and then hang themselves without anyone knowing.

Sorta like Epstein managed to do to himself ofc. Really is truly mystifying.

What's worse is the lack of mental health care which could have prevented this tragedy. Mr. Ge's death represents a totally failure on the part of the GeoGroup and the DHS."

And damn had he just had a decent therapist, I’m sure he coulda pulled through somehow. Never mind the abduction, jail, treatment, and nazis.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

I guess some lawyer decided it was a bad idea to say the obvious that they were murdered, so you get absurd writing like this

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

The medical examiner sounds like a complicit piece of shit implying anybody in that position hung themselves

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Just like Jeffrey r Epstein, best friend of Donald j Trump, and fellow child rapist.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Or it could have been a pre existing condition. Who can say?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

I feel bad for laughing at this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can place America in the ranks of Afghanistan and Sudan now .... what a shit show of a country.

[–] phdeeznuts@mander.xyz -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now? Did Trump improve it or something because it was always at the bottom along with Russian and China.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

America has a higher % of population incarcerated than both of those combined, with at least as much a culture of rape abuse and murder.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Now we've adopted their clever hack for reducing the incarcerated population.