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A Chinese immigrant was found dead in U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, with his hands and feet tied behind him, an attorney has alleged.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 32 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I hate guns and always thought open-carry was stupid. I get it now. When government thugs are taking people from the street and "disappearing" them, the rest of the citizens (who won't put up with that crap) need to be ready on the spot, while it is happening.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Isn't this why Americans have so stridently been justifying their need for guns? To protect themselves against tyranny and government overreach? And now it happens they're all like "Ummm. . . You first!"

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

At the time? In a four-against-one situation? They will vaporize you. If you decide to go 2A in the moment of an ICE kidnapping you'll end up a page 12 story and leave your mother without a son. You're not John Wick and they will be ready for you with body armor and better training.

If you want to serve refugee communities there are many, many ways that don't involve the inevitable loss of your own life in extreme, violent ways.

Edit: Be real, real careful when internet tough guys try to encourage you to commit violence. People who really do stuff like this don't talk about it first, so there's a 100% chance what you're reading was posted by a keyboard warrior or a fed.

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Better training? Not from what i’ve seen. They appear to be scared children with guns and cs grenades that go off at any loud noise.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

Better funding. Definitely not better training.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Better funding. Their "training" is practically non-existent

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah there's only one kind of whistle for ICE, in my opinion

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Still stupid. Carry a gun and ICE will just murder you.

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 19 hours ago

Murdered on the street or murdered in a detention center, same outcome