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This is such a confusing story—how does someone "hog tie" themselves before committing suicide by hanging?
The confusing part is that there's so many details provided but the report just kind of... awkwardly buries those facts underneath a pile of other facts.
Like the story wants to make you believe that this was a case of the jail being so horrific that this person with possible mental health issues killed themself.
You know, rather than focusing on what the conditions of the body's discovery actually imply: he was lynched in jail.
Ah yes the ‘ol’ he shot himself in the back of the head type of suicide.
And apparently it’s an epidemic in that prison. Multiple people tying their own hands and feet behind their backs and then hanging themselves. And of course since they couldn’t / didn’t fight back it could only be self inflicted, that’s the only solution to this conundrum here.
Sorta like Epstein managed to do to himself ofc. Really is truly mystifying.
And damn had he just had a decent therapist, I’m sure he coulda pulled through somehow. Never mind the abduction, jail, treatment, and nazis.
Epstein killed himself because the guards and cameras were called off. Someone whispered in his ear, "Do yourself or face hell. Think on it. We'll give you a few."
If you've never spent a couple of days in county, you can hardly imagine what a billionaire was facing. ALL the privilege and leverage in the world, gone. And try to put yourself in Epstein's shoes! Dozens of powerful men want you dead. Might as well get it over with. Epstein killed himself because he was allowed to kill himself.
Regardless, I think we all agree his death was orchestrated.
Holy fuck, do you still believe in Santa?
Epstein didn't kill himself, you fucking nob, and neither did this individual.
Easter Bunny was a witness.
Up until last week, that was my theory too
But now seeing Trump's reactions... he totally ordered the hit
People really underestimate this.
Suicide risk is dramatically higher when a person is first incarcerated. The shock caused by being in a dramatically different living situation and the knowledge that this is your new reality for the rest of your life is immense even if you come from a normal background with normal struggles.
This guy was a billionaire. To there's nothing that he couldn't do or have (even evil and gruesome things, as we know). He was the king of his world, he had staff, multiple houses, private islands, jets, every hedonistic pleasure and experience was available to him at any time.
He went from living that life to sleeping on a tiny steel cot with a pancake-thick mattress, in a 7'x12' box. He doesn't control anything there, when he eats, when he sleeps, where he goes, who he talks to are all determined by other people. He doesn't even control his own light switch.
That's an incredibly powerful shock in a situation where we know that the risk of suicide is increased.
The fact that people see this suicide as a conspiracy is more evidence of proportionality bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_bias) than anything else.
This is a very solid point, but how did he manage to do the act while tied up in a pickle suit and on suicide watch?
Forgive me if I'm not mistaken, but he was under the supervision of two guards specifically because they understood the high risk he was at, so they took precautions to prevent it.
Was he just that competent that he Houdini'd himself out of a super straitjacket and managed to expediently end himself under 24/7 supervision?
You're pretty mistaken. He wasn't in any kind of restraints or suit, he was in a regular cell in confinement in regular inmate uniform..
If you look at the cell photos he had his personal items and bed sheets, that isn't give to a person who is on suicide watch. They're given a padded room and a smock made out of a material like really thick toilet paper which can't be shredded and made into a rope.
He was alone in a regular cell, he had access to all of his personal and canteen items and regular bedding. He killed himself with the sheets that every inmate is given.
It's not exciting, but people kill themselves in prison all of the time. It doesn't take a grand conspiracy to understand why a billionaire facing effectively life in prison would feel suicidal.
Your hypothesis seems much weaker when we consider that Epstein was incarcerated for 13 months for his first conviction in 2008.
13 months is not a long time in prison.
Dude had literally the most possible bargaining power he could have had in that situation. Absolutely not.
So youre getting a lot of responses, but everyone is latching on to the word
hanginginstead ofligature.These are different things. Ligature does not involve the weight of the body, but a constrictive device on the neck. 3 nooses, one on hands, feet, and neck, would make you fully mobile until the rope was pulled.
Suspicious, definately. Should this place exist? No. Insane to be happening in a prison, definately. Unheard of? No.
The confusing part is the use of
hanging, as that is a very different form of strangulation.The medical examiner sounds like a complicit piece of shit implying anybody in that position hung themselves
I guess some lawyer decided it was a bad idea to say the obvious that they were murdered, so you get absurd writing like this
Just like Jeffrey r Epstein, best friend of Donald j Trump, and fellow child rapist.