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Fuck Akio and Toyota

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[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 139 points 3 months ago (26 children)

Easy: So I can scratch Toyota from the list of potentially interesting car companies for my next car.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

You can simply scratch every single new car from that list while you're at it. Every single one is a massive privacy violation with zero right to repair and corporations that soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways. Buy used and repair yourself, or walk.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I'm learning a hard lesson that you can't fix much after ~2016 either. You can replace the parts, but good luck resetting the computers without proprietary dealership software.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, you have to go back to the 2000s-2010s era and when abundant spare parts and junkyards start to run out, be prepared to invest new-car level cash in custom fabrication and mechanical work to keep it on the road. Cars don't really have to be as complicated or expensive as they are, but for now, they're always going to be. People have always been custom-building cars for show, for history, for racing, for performance, and pretty soon we're going to start doing it for daily drivers too, and it'll stay that way until they start changing the laws to try to force these cars off the road for environmental reasons. Until then, support your local custom car builders, they're going to become the future of repairable cars, at least when it comes to the pre-EV gas guzzlers.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

Basically, start taking notes from Cuban car culture. They're custom fabricating everything to keep their yank tanks operating.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Should be a full business keeping pre 2014 cars on the road or resto modding them to use after market user serviceable ecus.

Really depends on the car though. You can do amything with any 5.0 mustang and keep it going forever. An 02 focus though, youre screwed and there's no parts avilable any more and no aftermarket for it

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

soft-support the Nazi's in myriad ways.

Porsche, Mercedes Benz, Mitsubishi, Subaru, BMW, and VW: "Haha yeah, soft support, riiiight...."

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I love my 14 year old vw with no smart system (what little smart infotainment system it has hasn’t worked since I bought it and I’m replacing it with a regular stereo eventually) that I bought with a little cash. It has no frills like blind spot detection, lane stuff, nor backup camera, and I love it. But it has the right frills like heated seats and a sunroof.

I’m not sure I want a newer vehicle.

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[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 98 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reminder: Toyota is also the third biggest anti climate lobbyist in the world

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Also largest supplier of mobile weapons platform aka Hilux pickup truck.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 months ago

I was that close to a GR Corolla too. Thanks for making this easier.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Is this the same Toyota that sells like one EV model? Not exactly stunning leadership.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One shitty EV they co developed with Subaru.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And hydrogen cars that have almost a dozen available filling stations!

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 18 points 3 months ago

Ah, you mean the hydrogen that could theoretically be made from water but is actually in practice made from natural gas? The perfect infinitely renewable fuel indeed! Someday, it could even be zero-carbon! Someday in the future, after the oil companies have finished getting even richer and decide they finally have enough money now. Could happen any day now. Won't. But could!

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

The Subaru models are better, too. Like, way better.

[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Toyota lobbies hard against CAFE standards. They don’t wanna sell Priuses, they wanna sell TRUCKS!!!!

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Of course. They're massively profitable.

  1. You can ignore half the emissions standards requirements

  2. People want them because they're scared of driving a smaller vehicle while the other massive trucks on the road can crush them.

  3. They always talk about the ability to move things like furniture or equipment or things like thag despite only doing that twice a year, and rentals existing, including directly from places like Lowe's and Home Depot.

  4. People are willing to pay a premium because they mistakenly think that bigger vehicles cost substantially more to make because bigger must mean a lot more material, despite most of a vehicle being empty space.

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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Damn. Just finished up the payments on mine.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You purchased and paid it off before you knew, drive with a clear conscience until the wheels fall off and hope by then a better more ethical world exists.

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[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Cracking up that the photo is in front of a Ford

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is that the Mr. Toyota Trump was talking about?

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago

I always confuse him with Akira Nissan

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The name isn’t a coincidence. Akio Toyoda is a classic generational wealth nepo baby, the grandson of the founder of Toyota. Of course he’d be a Trumper.

The name of the company is read with a “ta” instead of “da” because of some Japanese numerology superstition reasons that I don’t fully understand.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honda is bending to Maga too.

Honda, GM and Chrysler have all cancelled plans of opening / expanding Factories in Canada, some that were already subsidied by the local governments, in favor of caving to US demands of returning manufacturing there instead.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well that may just be business prudence. In a world where Trump might wake up, see a picture of Trudeau kissing Katie Perry, and decide to make your cars 300% more expensive because fuck everyone, it's probably wiser to just not take that risk...

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And sadly, Toyota about the only vehicle that I can comfortably sit in without my back being torn up.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You ever sat in a Volvo? Best seats ever.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, no, I have not. I’ll have to check it out.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Don't knock preowned luxury cars either. 5+ year old used sedans with generally low mileage and usually comfort features (aka, old people who don't drive a lot), around the price of a low end new car these days

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The CEO of Toyota is named Toyoda?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Although the founding family's name was written in the Kanji "豊田" (rendered as "Toyoda"), the company name was changed to a similar word in katakana - トヨタ (rendered as "Toyota") because the latter has 8 strokes which is regarded as a lucky number in East Asian culture.

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's a family like Ford

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me, did you perhaps mean Fort?

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

More Tundras sold = more money

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