Linux Phones

We need to talk about them more. A lot of the time when developers go through the efforts of actually building apps rarely do they receive attention. It causes the feelings of “why continue this if nobody else cares.”

Artists want their works appreciated.

Eh? Microsoft and Windowsphone basically killed the only real alternative to Android and iOS when they did their hostile takeover of Nokia, and Windowsphone itself was an atrocity that luckily died rather quickly.

Nope. Go back to dumb phones and carry laptop for stuff you'd need smartphone for.

For some people Ubuntu Touch or FuriOS (Droidian) might do it, but there is no option that covers each an every daily driver use-case, so there isn't really an answer for your question (iOS for example doesn't cover my daily driver use-case at all).

I think that right now the best option is probably sailfish. Although I haven't tried it in years, I have just been following the topic since then. PostmarketOS is cool but I haven't tried it, would like to. UB ports is probably also worth looking into. Hardware is going to matter, these projects typically target a few devices.

No. I'd probably use FuriOS and Furilab's phone if/when GrapheneOS becomes unviable. It's not great but if you're a nerd you can wrangle it.

It can also run Android APK in a container. Though I'm not sure if that remains true if Google locks things down. That and a lot of projects will die off when F-Droid goes down with them anyways.

Hear me out; steam deck as a phone. WE CAN BRING BACK SIDETALKING

Which linux phone do you use?

To add why I want great hardware. A Linux phone needs a mainstream draw and I think gaming can be it. What I see on Android going on with GameFusion and Winlator, with a real Linux phone, such a thing could be way more streamlined especially if such a device draws in way more interest in open source drivers for mobile GPUs - Adreno, Mali, PowerVR.

Besides that, I think there needs to be some default apps that are good even if not Libre or whatever. By default some company should come out with a phone that has Flathub(something that filters to applications that they declare they're mobile disaply and touchscreen friendly), Signal, Element (something Matrix to replace Discord), and the basic applications things come with. Gallery, dialer, SMS/MMS/RCS application, camera, calendar, email client etc. The application store needs to facilitate payments in some way. Whether it's crypto or paypal or GNU Taler or whatever. Facilitate developers to have a path to get paid for their work

Right now the only company coming close to having the software services is Proton. Company with hardware clout it missing. Don't know if Valve would ever consider doing something with Plasma Mobile seeing as SteamOS already ships with KDE Plasma. That would be the dream. Ship it with Steam configured with FEX/proton

WebOS was amazing. I didn't know what performance was until I touched a WebOS phone

Then buy me a phone to install it on. No way I'm putting corporate anything on my personal.