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easily contact your MEP: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 109 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This is the worst thing in ages. I'm 50+, very good with IT, and I understand that we MUST act against it.

But I'm tired, boss.

Surrounded by lemmings and sheep that love Facebook and WhatsApp. People are stupid. I don't have the energy to fight so much ignorance and stupidity - willful or otherwise.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, they keep trying. You fight it one year, they're back the next. Extremely undemocratic.

[–] brachypelmide@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago

Precisely. You need to keep winning, while they just need to win once. Would love it if repeat offenders like these would just stop being considered entirely after being rejected multiple times.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

The provided link will let you contact MPs with just a few lazy clicks.

[–] rekabis@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just a few years older, in IT as a career, and absolutely the same.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit - I thought they dropped this! JFC, EU! What TF are you doing?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There seems to be some kind of group repeatedly pushing this crap every other year, with increasingly shady tactics.

I would for sure like to know from where this emanates...

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's the pro-surveilance people that want to monetize your data. They try and lean on fear and push this "only ISIS uses Signal" narrative that is obviously false.

It's just so preposterous - businesses and payment processors rely on e2ee just as much as anyone else does. The one time we're on the same team they just want a carve out for businesses or something I expect.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So that's why their quiz is stacked this weird way:

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, classic juked survey. Not objective at all, only someone that is "pro-crime!" would say no.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ISIS also breathes oxygen.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

Oh no! Get it all out of here!!!! Ah!

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I swear that fuckface is part Ellen Degeneres

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not enough people are aware of just how evil Peter Theil really is

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Agreed. I’ve tried to tell people about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment but friends and family brush it off like it’s some small cult thing instead of being silently funded by billionaires

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This would not break encrypted messaging but forbid it.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What if I just transmit a bunch of random ass digits to someone?

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

And, now listen, what if the someone has a bunch of these numbers in his backpocket, and by complete chance, when added to your number, it gives a number that might just mean something.

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[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Any Dutch people here? Follow nerdvote.nl, to help decide who to vote for this election. They are suggesting technical minded people should unite and form a block in elections, so that parties will try to cater to us. If you want our vote, come up with plans an proposals to create digital sovereignty and freedom. As a member of PVDA/GL I am probably voting Barbara Kathmann , as she is fighting for digital sovereignty. Without preferential votes she probably won't make it in so your preferential vote matters!

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Operation Rubicon!

This is such a bad idea that even the US stopped doing it to all their enemies (i.e. their allies). Of course they have PRISM instead now which can't be cracked by their enemies (i.e. their enemies and allies).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rubicon

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Ok how do they plan to enforce that?

By banning HTTPS at the ISP level?

Edit: and then how do they enforce GPDR? Because you better believe everyone and their mother is going to snoop on every communication made.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Blocking HTTPS would be frighteningly hilarious. My employer is one of thousands of websites that utilizes HSTS, which tells web browsers to use HTTPS. Our implementation of HSTS, like lots of banks etc. is also listed with HSTSpreload, which means browsers like chrome will only ever use HTTPS with our site.

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[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

By forcing Whatsapp Signal etc to implement backdoors

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Signal wouldn't, or if it did, it would be labeled as such as an insecure fork for EU conpliance only and make that fork stale immediately.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't need to ban encryption, just control top level certificate authorities and have access to private keys.

I'd like to see them try to get mine lol.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

One point of hope is that they mandated cross platform chat compatibility too, and every platform is just... Ignoring it and not doing it with zero consequences.

Maybe this just also won't happen.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

Feeling hopeful about giant tech companies ignoring attempts to reign them in is unwise, even when it occasionally lines up with something you personally want. And I even say that as someone with permanent distrust of the big power structures doing the regulating.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm just so tired of it all. At this point I would not be surprised about ending up in prison a decade from now for using encrypted communication.

[–] Broken_Orange_Juice@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Aren't Europeans supposed to be the good guys?

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are no "good guys" or "bad guys" in geopolitics, just shades of grey. On quite a few topics, the EU is better, but any government is capable of doing stupid shit.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, the EU is just as much liberal capitalism as the US. They have a better social safety net and looked better in comparison.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 5 months ago

The competition is pretty weak.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

The EU's been veering right for a few years now.

the EU commission is absolutely dumb and definitely not on the side of the people though. by the way, it's also not democratically elected.

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's ironic to use a meme from a movie depicting a fascistic government, to protest against a fascistic measure.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 6 points 5 months ago

Thanks for sharing the link to contact the MEPs. Thats actually very useful.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In many cases this could be argued as unconstitutional.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In germany, it's not technically unconstitutional (i checked last week because i assumed it should be) but it definitely feels like it should be unconstitutional. After WW2, there was a consensus to not surveil your own population, and this is a very important constraint to keep in mind.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Where did you check that? The Vorratsdatenspeicherung has been ruled unconstitutional twice for example

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

I've contacted them yesterday evening. Funnily enough, all the AfD opposes chat control. They're clever. If chat control were to pass, they could campaign on having opposed it, and then mission creep it once elected.

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