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Funny, but no.

We are trapped in our own cultivated echo-chambers. You are a victim of the same cognitive control mechanisms as the right if you think there is at all a large enough wave of regret and "realization" going through the general conservative or even median voting population to effectively produce change.

This is still not enough. If you want to understand why, spend a day watching FOX or even CNN or MSNBC. Right-wing news is already moving onto other bullshit topics like trade and trans athletes and immigration successes. The other networks are using this latest drama to squeeze the last traces of pus from the emotional pimple from a population that wants to read a feel-good, satisfying "We got 'em!" story so they can get back to their comfortable lives.

The only way this will turn into anything with actual political action is if enough people actively serving in politics right now organize and use this to affect actual political decisions. Investigations, evidence, articles and coalitions. We were led to believe that the Democratic establishment was supposed to be doing this, as there really isn't any other sizeable organization working in politics who can, but the sad truth is that most dems are just working as cover for the fact that the entire establishment, republican and democrat, has been bought or is actively being attacked and dragged out of the picture for not being bought. (See: Mamdani)

You want this to mean something? Go get involved in your local political groups and work on getting rid of the foundation of this pyramid of slime that supports our congress and senate.

well, he's certainly an expert on the topic

Blaine & Robert (as a pair), Ivana and Ivanka are there but not Donald???

Weird.

That's not Epstein list. It's just book with a bunch of contacts. Some Epstein met, some Epstein wanted to meet.

As per Snopes:

Because according to Mr. Rodriguez’s statement in the affidavit, the book was compiled by employees of Mr. Epstein, not by Mr. Epstein himself. Those contacted for this article acknowledged having met Ghislaine Maxwell, Mr. Epstein’s former girlfriend and “lady of the house,” and posited perhaps that was how their names ended up in the book. (It is unclear from the affidavit whether Ms. Maxwell is one of the “employees.” Ms. Buck said that she had met Ms. Maxwell at a boutique opening but that “she never phoned me.”)

The Integillience did a deep dive on the contacts in the book.

Thank you. I’ve been wondering whether I had hallucinated this, since it sounds like many people have forgotten this exists.

We saw this a full decade ago. It’s the contents of his ‘black book’, and trump is listed specifically under the ‘Island’ heading.

Where is this from?

I mean, no, because we've known that he is one for decades.

Much like everything else, he just needs to own it.

If he put out a message saying "Women are peak when they're 13 and Jeff was the only guy who really knew that RIP" and dropped the file at the same time he could skate...

But he won't say it because he's spent years demonizing the Dems about the list while he's on it. So since "the list" is bad and he's on the list, it can't come out, but since he's in charge of releasing it and he has told his base to care they do. He could even say "I'm just on the list because Obama put me on there!" and he'd skate.

I don't get it, honestly, but there's too many scenarios where he gets off fine. His friends just don't want it to come out because they're not him and they won't get off free.

Isn't that why they support him?

They get confused, he provides direction, they happy again

Anecdotally, I’ve seen at least two that are very upset about this and the spending bill

How many people do you think are actually maga? There is some overlap of beliefs between the r’s and the extremists, and I think the r’s are starting to recognize that their party has been hijacked.

Yep. This too shall blow over, leaving at most a "shrug, I didn't like how he handled the whole Epstein situation but I voted for him for a third term because he's the only one who can save the country and make America great again"

It's amazing how they are pro-pedophilia (due to their continued support and blindness towards all the real pedophiles around them) but screech about looking for pedophiles everywhere, or at least they were a few years ago! How can anyone trust these people when they support the thing they purport to loathe. When will this all blow up?

Add in the criminality of Trump and Co, and these guys are looking in all the wrong places!

I'm not hoping much, but if at least a small percentage of them get swayed, it might be enough to lose him the next election. (I'm automatically assuming he will keep running for a third term. These people don't stop unless they are stopped.)

Do they not realize Epstein was killed when Trump was president the first time?