The good news is he read the HOA agreement, initiated a special meeting through signatures, and now the neighborhood is holding a special election to remove the dickhead board members.
this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2025
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Thank you, comment that summarises what's in the article, I was afraid I might have to read the article to get the full picture.
What a dystopian hell hole. My condolences to everyone having something like HOA in their lives. May you all experience a civilised and free country at some point.
The HOA I live in doesn't allow motorcycles in the driveway. Garage only.
I have two. They take up more room than you'd expect.
I see many homeless people in my area, I am more withdrawn but I always think of grabbing a case of water for our hot times to hand out, even if it may not be cool. Sort of too shy to follow through previously but it gets like 30-40C this part of Canada in the summer and we sort of need water to live.
My favorite HOA conflict:
https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/epic-hoa-parking-boot-battle.572540/
TL;DR - HOA boots a car parked outside a guys house. He puts the car up on dollies and pushes it into his garage.
They accuse him of stealing the boot.
He tells them they can come get it any time they want.
They tell him it's $140 to remove the boot.
He tells them "Nah, it's cool, I don't need to drive the car." LOL.
Edit Also in Arizona... Something in the water down there?
Fair warning for anyone who wants to boot my car I own a cordless angle grinder...
I got booted at university once so I just changed my tire and took the boot with me
Now they use 2 boots
I bought a boot removal tool my first year of college and was the savior of my friend group.
Don't the boots cover the lug nuts?
On some of them you can just let the air out of the tire and slip them off the wheel. I did that at a parking garage one time and left the boot in the parking spot.
They found me later and said I stole it, I told them to check the camera footage and they saw someone else carry the thing off. I don't know how I got out of that one but I guess they just went after the other guy instead of me lol
Most boots are also trivially easy to pick open for even an armature.
They arnt generally well made
This one didn't lol
the heat does something to your brain, or its just the sort of people who move to arizona are already freaks
Ugh this isn't what HOAs are for!
HOAs are intended to harass and discriminate against black and brown people so that they don't move in, or at least immediately leave.
Not white guys with majestic beards.
He must've been giving water to black or brown people, it's the only justifiable reason.
HOA's are for people who used to be in positions of perceived power at work but now they're retired and they miss bossing/bitching at people.
They're for people who don't feel dominated enough by daddy government so they add another layer.
HOAs seem like they should be illegal. Having a contract in perpetuity that is attached to the purchase of property seems like it shouldn't be allowed. So it is not only bound to the person who originally signed, but to whoever purchases the relevant property afterwards, and that gives other people rights over you that can be changed afterwards and are only limited by their conscience.
I basically don't think you should be able to create a government by using a contract.
HOAs are the direct result of racists trying to work around de-jure segregation being abolished, so yeah.
I basically don't think you should be able to create a government by using a contract.
It's basically what Anarco-capitalism wants to do. Incidentally, HOAs form the best real world argument against Anarco-capitalism.
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Whoever ratted it him out is just jealous of his beard.
I doubt anyone ratted him out. HOA "inspections" are a thing. I was in an HOA once, and i had a shutter fall off my house. They took a picture of it and sent it to me to tell me i had to fix it.
That HOA was good tho. The shutter had been off 6 months and the note said, "most of the time, residents dont even know theyre in violation. So you have a month to prove you come up with a plan to fix it." Which was like, call and get a quote. Then just sent them a pic when it was back up
Considering board members are made up of residents, there's a good chance it was one of them then. Even them, that's some petty nonsense.
My mom's neighborhood is an HOA, and they have a rule of no work/utility truck overnight parking. I have a shell and lumber rack on my truck that has a conduit box and ladders on it, and she's gotten flagged for it a couple of times (there's a specific crotchety old neighbor she suspects), but she's just told them to go pound sand, and that's somehow worked.
Fuck HOAs. I've vowed to never live in one. I know it's not an option for some people due to where they live, but I am not dealing with that crap.
Couldn't you just park outside the neighbor's house? Or just get a cheap truck and just abandon it, see who they go after then.
You hired somebody to put a shutter back on? It's just a couple of screws!
Screws are complicated for Americans
Can confirm, am American screw
Without reading the article and having dealt with an HOA in the past I will guess he was causing more traffic in the area
It's not paywalled. You could actually read it. As a spoiler alert, your guess appears to be wrong. They don't mention that as the issue.
It's not paywalled.
It is however impossible to reject all the cookies. So I'm going to give it a wide berth
Man, I could never live with an HOA. It’s just dumb.
They are suprisingly difficult to avoid. Shared units, condos and apartments all have associations that are just an HOA with a different name. The only difference for these are that they are responsible for replacing the shared roof every 20-ish years or so.
Having shared assets to maintain is legitimate, but the vast majority of HOAs (those governing single-family neighborhoods) don't really have that as an excuse. Even if they do have something to maintain, like a private street or a pool, it's only because the local government was shirking its responsibility to provide what should have been public infrastructure.
(And that's why they're so common: because low-density development is so ruinously unsustainable, governments heavily encourage developers to establish HOAs so that the time bomb of future maintenance is the homeowners' problem instead of bankrupting the city.)
I would give HOA murderers a get out of jail free pass, honestly.
Would be interesting to know what rule they might have that could be interpreted in such a way to ban giving out water (and which should be referenced in a citation, no?) but the article doesn't mention anything of the sort.
It's not the water-handing-out in and of itself. Also, yeah these people often suck and enforcement often makes them look like the tools they are, but make no mistake about it, there are people that like it that their neighborhoods are policed by Karens who keep it looking like a sterile movie set. The moral of the story is, stay the fuck away from HOAs.
Here are two common clauses that are probably being applied here:
Residential Use All Lots within the Properties shall be used, improved, and devoted exclusively to single-family residential use. No trade, business, commercial activity, or profession of any kind, whether for profit or not, shall be conducted, maintained, or permitted on any part of any Lot without the prior written consent of the Board of Directors. This prohibition shall include, but not be limited to, any activity that generates regular visitor or client traffic to the Lot.
Prohibition of Signs No sign, billboard, poster, or advertising device of any character shall be erected, placed, permitted, or maintained on any Lot or on the exterior of any Dwelling, except for one (1) "For Sale" or "For Rent" sign of a type, size, and location approved by the Architectural Control Committee, and small signs identifying the occupant's name or address as permitted by the Committee. All other signs are expressly prohibited without prior written approval from the Board.
It does:
The Canyon Trails HOA and its management company, F-S Residential, began issuing citations to Martin last year for having a cooler in his driveway.
My guess is the language about what can't be visible is very general to cover all kinds of things that could be considered "unsightly" like bikes, clothes, trash, etc.
I'm sure it could be fixed with some provision about the items being actively used but HOAs are dicks.
Free country bro
Don't tread on me
My guess is...
So in other words, the article doesn't mention which rule could be interpreted to ban giving out water.
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