too late for post-nut clarity, kids. he's not just a person he's a cultural moment y'all embraced and is going to take a lot more of a "well maybe he's not that great for the economy" to unfuck ourselves from. how about some introspection about why we're attracted to narcissists or so deeply spiritually moved by shitty tough-man antics? where's that political analysis?
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Too fucking late man. Dudes already in office wrecking the country..
His polling numbers dont matter. Either he cannot run for president again or he fucks up the government bad enough to allow him to, in which case the vote is going to be rigged AF anyway.
IF it's from Newsweek, it's just a shitty clickbait title with nothing of actual substance in the actual article. Lemmy users need to stop posting Newsweek links, it is not a good source to trust.
And yet Gen Z still didn't do anything. Loud and proud, until it comes to actually doing anything.
Man, the tiktok kids will do it, the weird Taylor swift fans band together are unstoppable. Turns out, it's all just internet bullshit. Who knew?
Im gen z and I voted Harris. I also attended no kings Chicago. Not all of us are just sitting and watching this happen but enough are that it makes us look bad.
There aren't going to be any more elections.
It doesn't matter.
Single issue protestors put in in office. Now they don’t like him there?
Just wait about 20 minutes, Newsweek will have a headline about fascism and GenZ. I loath that clickbait factory.
Repeat after me: He doesn't fucking care.
The fact that he ever had an approval rating with Gen Z is mind-boggling.
He got a lot of gen z votes! Shit is Fucked up.
They get their news front social media and watch ufc
Gen Z was explicitly not taught how to read properly. It’s very difficult to not be conspiracist and think it was on purpose. Phonics was thrown out entirely for years. Teachers spoke up about it not working, and were forced to work the programs anyway.
The memes were legit funny.
You have to realize the joke is your country for the memes to be less funny.
I was just at lunch, the table next door had a bunch of Trump gear on, even the teenagers. I overheard bits of conversation and it was totally normal stuff, which makes me wonder what attracts people to such a gross person
If you’re just watching the evening news and not looking into things further, Trump is not painted in such as light as we see in say articles linked here on Lemmy. Abrego Garcia? Well that was just one mistake. Mistakes happen right? I’m sure they’ll fix it. Then you move on with the rest of your life without giving it more thought. I think that is how seemingly “normal” people buy into this.
Media sanewashing honestly.
They treat a complete fascist as if he's a normal politician of a normal party.
That's how.
There's also a degree to which conservative media and conservative culture teach their people to act like they are more inline with the mainstream. There's old stuff that's been going on forever like using coded language so they talk about an "urban problem" instead of openly saying that black people are the problem or they'll talk about "New York people" instead of openly saying that Jewish people are the problem. If you haven't been exposed to that then some of what they're saying can sound somewhat reasonable.
Then there is the "respect" thing. Conservative parents are big about emphasizing how you say something over what you say. So they're fine with saying that disabled people should just die as long as it's not phrased that way. It should sound more like "It's sad that some people are sick but there are only so many resources and we need to put them where they're most productive. Hopefully their family can take care of them." It's more etiquette than real respect but they make a big deal out of it.
I assume it had to do with the parents being supporters too.
Nah, right wingers have been actively targeting young people for decades, and still do now. They're literally playing Roblox with your children.
Want to know why there were so many conservative Gen Zs? Gamergate.
We can't pretend this is just passive, from the parent kind of stuff. The right has and continues to actively target children in their spaces in ways that us on the left just have too much integrity to. I'm not saying we should start counter-indoctrinating children, but we need to be realistic and honest with ourselves about the situation.
Also the incel shits like that tate fucker being targeted towards young men.
That movement has done so much damage, there isn't a hole deep enough to throw manosphere influencers into
I would say the Mariana Trench, but I don't want to pollute the oceans.
What's wrong with the classic volcano sacrifice?
I think people forget that the 19 year olds voting for him were 10 when the “Grab ‘em by the pussy” shit happened. Not that it’s an excuse to not pay attention but a lot of the people who voted for him didn’t have the benefit of hindsight and spent the entire pandemic alone in their rooms listening to Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate.
Yeah, and it also feels "forever ago" when you're that age. Literally half their lives. So I could understand them thinking it's "old news", but when you're an old and crusty 40 year old, you know that a 60 someone saying heinous shit means that person is deeply twisted.
Hell I'm 25 and 2016 feels like a lifetime ago.
I’m 26 but I don’t feel this way at all. 2006 feels more like a lifetime away for me personally. I could go back to 2016 like it was yesterday.
Gen Z was around 12-27 years old during the election. I think part of it could honestly be due to brain development.
Also the youth vote usually doesn't support the incumbent as kids kinda like to rebel.
Supporting the conservative party which seeks to undo progress and maintain the status quo as a form of "rebellion" is so goddamn typical of idiot kids. The elderly and young people agree on one general stance: "idk wtf you're talking about and I absolutely don't like it or want it."
The shrink of our memories and attention spans will have been our undoing. It's probably already over, and it'll be another 50 years or so before people realize it. Idk if we can ever recover from all of this, so I'm just gonna drink and play video games between chores today instead of watching for current events.
It's important to take breaks from the doom and gloom. We can take a day off from rearranging deck chairs once in a while. We owe it to ourselves.
They're not doing it to be contrarian. They're doing it because the Republican party has spent more time than they've been alive establishing themselves as the anti-establishment party as well as the victims, and the good ol' fascist play of giving young men disillusioned with the bad things in their lives an easy target to blame rather than blaming the people who are actually at fault - the Republicans.
There are 40+-year-olds who were surprised when Rage Against the Machine didn't support Trump. What machine did they think they were raging against? The Democrats of course, well known for being the party of the establishment and the status quo. Not like those scrappy Republicans, looking out for the common man while the Dems look down from their big-city ivory towers with disdain.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.“ It also revolves around this aspect too.
Way too fucking late...
This is why they set up the bill to kick in after the midterms.
Yep it'll all be the Dems fault. Everyone will have forgotten about this bill and right wing media will push the lie. Easy money they say.
What's worse is dems might win and those same dumbasses that voted for them will question why they didn't unfuck decades of this shit in a single term and then sit on their lazy asses the election after.
And thus the cycle will repeat.
And even worse yet it'll be by the razor-thin 50:50 majority we always give them and they will STILL take the full blame in an endless cycle of self destruction.
"WhY DIdn'T YoU AMMeNd ThE COnstiTUTIon DeMS?! Wy nO ImpeAcH anD ReMoVe?!"
Yeah. They expect to lose the midterms. Let the bill kick in, and then blame the Democrats for it. ‘How could they let this happen?! Vote for us in 2028 to get your healthcare back’ or something like that.
He could be the most hated man in history and it don’t mean shit if you don’t get off your ass and vote.
If the US still had free and fair elections, they’d be worried
Glad Gen Z is waking up.
This will have no effect on what happens to us going forward.
Approval rating collapsing after the election? Is that the modern version of the "closing the barn door after the horse got out" saying?