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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 36 minutes ago

Is this confirmed? Like yea the picture looks legit, but anybody do this with physical blocks or at least something other than ms paint?

[–] Squalia@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago

Here's a much more elegant solution for 17

[–] JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I hate this so much

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 28 points 5 hours ago

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 90 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

With straight diagonal lines.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 52 minutes ago

hey it's no longer June, homophobia is back on the menu

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Why are there gaps on either side of the upper-right square? Seems like shoving those closed (like the OP image) would allow a little more twist on the center squares.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

there's a gap on both, just in different places and you can get from one to the other just by sliding. The constraints are elsewhere so wouldn't allow you to twist.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

Oh, I see it now. That makes sense.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 hours ago

I think this diagram is less accurate. The original picture doesn’t have that gap

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

You have a point. That's obnoxious. I just wanted straight lines. I'll see if I can find another.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 92 points 8 hours ago

Oh so you're telling me that my storage unit is actually incredibly well optimised for space efficiency?

Nice!

[–] schnokobaer@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago

That tiny gap on the right is killing me

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 47 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

if I ever have to pack boxes like this I'm going to throw up

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 7 points 7 hours ago

I've definitely packed a box like this, but I've never packed boxes like this 😳

[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 8 hours ago

If there was a god, I'd imagine them designing the universe and giggling like an idiot when they made math.

[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Bees seeing this: "OK, screw it, we're making hexagons!"

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

4-dimensional bees make rhombic dodecahedrons

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Fun fact: Bees actually make round holes, the hexagon shape forms as the wax dries.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Unless I’m wrong, it’s not the most efficient use of space but if you impose the square shape restriction, it is.

[–] cooligula@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's what he said. Pack 17 squares into a square

[–] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My point was that it doesn’t break my brain at all when considering there’s an artificial constraint that affects efficiency and there’s just not going to be a perfect solution for every number of squares when you consider the problem for more than just 17 squares

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

That's what makes it a puzzle. That's what a puzzle is.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Is this a hard limit we’ve proven or can we still keep trying?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

We actually haven't found a universal packing algorithm, so it's on a case-by-case basis. This is the best we've found so far for this case (17 squares in a square).

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Figuring out 1-4 must have been sooo tough

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 26 points 8 hours ago

It's the best we've found so far

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Not complete without the sounds

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

~~To be fair, the large square can not be cleanly divided by the smaller square(s). Seems obvious to most people, but I didn't get it at first.~~

~~In other words: The size relation of the squares makes this weird solution the most efficient (yet discovered).~~

Edit: nvm, I am just an idiot.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The outer square is not given or fixed, it is the result of the arrangement inside. You pack the squares as tightly as you can and that then results in an enclosing square of some size. If someone finds a better arrangement the outer square will become smaller

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

I love when I have to do research just to understand the question being asked.

Just kidding, I don't really love that.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

But there are 7 squares in the middle with 10 around it, surely that counts for something