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The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million US citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023 – and it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.

According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

Edit: According to the Miami Herald, it depends on where you live:

The Supreme Court’s ruling means the judges’ injunctions blocking Trump’s executive order only affect the jurisdictions where immigrant groups filed their lawsuits — leaving the rest of the country, including Florida, subject to the president’s citizenship order. The turn of events is likely to lead to more federal lawsuits, including a class action case brought by the American Civil Liberties Union in New Hampshire on Friday.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are slowly creeping towards Republican Party Membership with a "Respectable Voting Record", being the sole requirement for US Citizenship

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

As long as Mamdani can't run anymore, centrists are on board.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ah. And it all falls into place.

All that will be left once they get this established is to expand it a bit more, so that any citizen can be stripped of their cirizenship, and thus of their rights, and thus made subject to ICE's authority and legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp

I think you mean sold to the highest bidding foreign labour camp.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago

Yes. But legally.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

That alligator concentration camp in Florida is probably for people they think are legal citizens.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, because that's not at all fascist in the slightest...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

You have guns and a 2nd amendment. Strap up! This is the exact reason millions upon millions of Americans viciously defend Line item number 2 in your constitution: To fight tyranny.

If you don’t, all those years of defending it will be all for naught.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Millions upon millions of Americans have not defended the 2nd on anti-tyranny grounds. Most of them just have a hobby and think their AR-15 will someday defend their innocent white wife from bands of dangerous minorities. The 2nd Amendment people who actually believe in violent revolution (or the threat thereof) as the backstop of democracy are a tiny minority. We'd need something like "well-regulated militias" for that.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Plus only like 33% of people own a firearm who legally can, which is suspiciously close to the number of die hard Trump supporters. There might be more dollars/guns in America than people, but they certainly aren't distributed evenly.

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Very much so

Leave if you can

we should start calling it ethnic cleansing.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

-- Undocumented immigrants are drug traffickers and violent criminals!

-- Any undocumented immigrant committed a crime just by being here! Deport them all!

-- Documented immigrants who espouse un-American views should have their status revoked and be deported!

-->Citizens who were from abroad, if we believe they went through naturalization improperly should be deported! (America is here)

-- Being born here shouldn't mean a free ticket to citizenship!

-- You don't deserve to have a US citizenship if you aren't on Team America!!!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

“Criminal offenses”

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

Ironically, this exactly describes Elon Musk's situation where he was misrepresenting that he was on a student visa while he was working on a startup. Which would be a willful misrepresentation and grounds to have his citizenship revoked.

It's also a blank check to selective enforcement when any material fact discrepancy can be investigated and used to target any recent immigrants.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also Melania with her Einstein visa.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I misread as Epstein visa at first lol

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep, people all think that a criminal history means they did something bad like robbing a store or assaulting people. It's not, it could be that they were here illegally for 6 months before they became legal.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Elon Musk misrepresented his visa back in the day and was therefore technically illegal for a period, so at the very least he should get dropped in the emerald mines.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

So if you hold a green card/passport holder claims that their boss sexually assaulted. If they fail to prove it (which is always hard to prove even with evidence) they could denaturalize them since it is a "False Claim Act" violation.

Am I understanding this correctly?

No this is for people like myself who are Americans and can run for President but were born abroad. I was born in Mexico. Im white, not straight and Im terrified as I can now be made stateless.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No. You did not understand it correctly. I suggest reading the article. They're quite clear in what types of offenses could lead to denaturalization.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Elaborate on how to read an article? I don't know what to tell you. You click the link, reject the cookies, and proceed to read the text.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.

On 13 June, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke. Duke is a US military veteran originally from the UK who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material and had not disclosed the crime during the naturalization process.

Immigration attorneys are concerned that denaturalization cases via civil litigation strip some rights from the individual, including rights to an attorney as well as lowering the threshold of proof, and speeding up the denaturalization process.

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Much worse than that - a naturalized citizen is a CITIZEN, not a resident. They can vote, have a passport, and everything.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, naturalized citizens are supposed to be just as citizeny as someone like me who was born here, to citizens, and has ancestors that have been here since this was the united kingdom (I also have an immigrant grandparent, a combination which isn't even rare here).

Historically naturalization being revoked took some hard-core doing on all sides. Naturalization is hard (though it's easy if you're a minor who's parents do it, in which case it transfers to you under certain circumstances), and it involves a lot of checks and tests and takes years. Naturalized citizens tend to love America like nobody else, though those naturalized as children are more like us that were born here.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So, what happens to those people's status regarding their statehood? We can't force their prior country to re-instate their citizenship.

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court ruled that they don't even need to send them to the prior country that they came from. So likely indefinite detention and trafficking paid for by the U.S. government until the headlines cease

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[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 6 points 4 days ago

They go to El Salvador or another holding location. Presumably to work.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How about no...when do we get out and just tell them no? They can run us over with tanks, drop bomb, etc. Its coming, just a matter of when the civil war starts, and who fires the first shot. If they dont want to participate faithfully in the United States, and give preferential treatment, withhold disaster aid funding, etc, then whats the point of being part of the Union?

These fuck heads think we'll just run scared with our tail between our legs, and thats not true. Nobody wins in a civil war, but thats what they're gonna get.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That is what needs to happen. Unfortunately the issue is that they start with messaging like this to make the vast majority of the country think they're safe.

Its only going to be 'certain citizens', who've committed 'certain crimes'.

So that most other citizens will sit quietly in the corner and hope to not call attention to themselves.

Meanwhile the scale and scope of who's counted as undesirable; who's going to be impacted, will continue to grow as their ability to process the 'undesirables' grows. This will go until the set of undesirables includes everyone not actively working for 'The Party'

[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yo my dudes, gonna do something at some point? Should be riots everywhere by now

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] swemg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)
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[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That sounds like musk to me... Please deport musk

[–] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Can we start with the felon DT?

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago
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