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This not only has been going on awhile, it's worse than it sounds.
A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.
Mikkelsen explained: "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone."
Any idea if these threats are actionable? He's not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.
They have "deported" dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you're a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they're trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it's starting to matter less and less.
Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you're crossing the border, you're in danger of whatever they want to do to you.
i think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you
On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.
-1984
There's neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump's fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one's desires.
they are not legal, as the first amendment applies even to noncitizens. however that doesn’t mean they can’t deny entry for “any” reason. they are fascist after all.
Basically like firing you from work for discrimination isn't legal, but firing you for performance is (your performance being anything they wish to come up with).
Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don't have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you've passed through.
This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.
This can't be true because conservatives always cry about free speech.
If this is true then that means conservatives are massive hypocritical assholes.
You don't think they would do that?
Just go on the internet and tell lies?
imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes
seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone
Keep in mind that TSA searching peoples' phones was already policy under the last few administrations. Which is part of why I wasnt interested in traveling there even before the lunatic.
I've been avoiding travel to the US since the Patriot Act that followed 9/11 started that kind of shit and more in general the US started moving away from Democracy and into Autocracy.
Last time I felt like traveling to the North American continent I just went to Canada instead for a whole month - sea kayaking in British Columbia, hiking in the Canadian Rockies, sightseeing in Quebec . Highly recommended by the way.
Absolutely!
I have family in the US. Uncles and aunts and cousins. One of my cousins have a child who I've never met. I would love to meet them all.
But there is no way I'm going to the states in the current condition. And even if the administration would be replaced, I think it would take years for the states to recover to the point where I would visit.
The United States is such a shithole country lol
No one should travel there.
Um excuse me, who else can defend peace and freedom and democracy? They make all the best weapons!
All my plans involving the US have been canceled for the foreseeable future. Fuck that place and Russia too.
US is China now.
I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.
Please be satire, please be satire...
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...Oh, fuck.
Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.
Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.
Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.
I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren't news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.
It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.
Mads Mikkelsen
See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of "The West" where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.
We are no better. I'm not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people's phones.
If you are doing any international travel, leave your personal phone at home and bring a burner.
I have traveled the world, I just returned from China. Nobody has ever asked for my phone. This is crazy and it's definitely not the norm and is not happening even in very strict regime countries. This is the new USA.
Just get a burner to travel. Quit bringing your phones here.
Better yet, don't go at all. Go to a country that's still a democracy.
Do they have the right to search your phone ?
They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don't apply.
If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can't deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.
If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.
This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren't this insane.
Welcome to the new authoritarian America. Brought to you by craven politicians and a huge group of dipshits who consistently vote against their best interests because they only consume information straight from the sewer pipe that is fox news. Free speech is under threat more with each passing day, and once the Palantir database is complete, they are really going to go all out with their oppression.
We're just another one of those feckless authoritarian countries with weird-ass laws about not mocking or criticizing the government now. It's pathetic.