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A 21-year-old tourist has described the horrendous treatment he allegedly received after being denied entry to the USA due to a meme depicting JD Vance as bald being found on his phone

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 242 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Our leaders are NOT Snowflakes or Emotional!

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 week ago
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 173 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This not only has been going on awhile, it's worse than it sounds.

A French scientist was denied entry at the border earlier this year, in March, after officers unearthed messages criticising Trump on his phone.

Mikkelsen explained: "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone."

[–] XLE@piefed.social 68 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Any idea if these threats are actionable? He's not a US citizen to just fine or imprison.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They have "deported" dozens of US citizens at this point. Usually, being a non-citizen makes you more vulnerable to arbitrary bullshit at the border, whereas if you're a citizen you can stand up much more so for your rights if they're trying to push you into something illegal, but as of this year it's starting to matter less and less.

Everything is actionable once the rule of law collapses. At this point, if you're crossing the border, you're in danger of whatever they want to do to you.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i think this is a concept that a lot of people are having a hard time grasping: laws are meaningless if no one enforces them. this 100% applies both to laws meant to protect you, AND laws meant to punish those who are harming you

On the other hand his actions are not regulated by law or by any clearly formulated code of behaviour. In Oceania there is no law. Thoughts and actions which, when detected, mean certain death are not formally forbidden, and the endless purges, arrests, tortures, imprisonments, and vaporizations are not inflicted as punishment for crimes which have actually been committed, but are merely the wiping-out of persons who might perhaps commit a crime at some time in the future.

-1984

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

There's neither even a rhyme nor reason to Trump's fascism (or to fascism in general). But it does correlate with the observation that they are fantasists. They do things out of whim and emotions, disregarding expert advice and opinions. Any promulgation of fascism will eventually lead to its own downfall, because they live in a fantasy world where they believe that their will alone could shape reality; ignoring the basic common sense that reality could never be altered to one's desires.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

they are not legal, as the first amendment applies even to noncitizens. however that doesn’t mean they can’t deny entry for “any” reason. they are fascist after all.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Basically like firing you from work for discrimination isn't legal, but firing you for performance is (your performance being anything they wish to come up with).

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depressingly, SCOTUS has ruled that you really don't have the same rights at border crossings as you do once you've passed through.

This applies to citizens as well as foreign nationals.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This can't be true because conservatives always cry about free speech.

If this is true then that means conservatives are massive hypocritical assholes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

You don't think they would do that?

Just go on the internet and tell lies?

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 106 points 1 week ago (10 children)

imagine going on holiday in a country where they check your phone for memes

seeing the grand canyon seems cool but it can wait until that lunatic and his friends are gone

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 27 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Keep in mind that TSA searching peoples' phones was already policy under the last few administrations. Which is part of why I wasnt interested in traveling there even before the lunatic.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

I've been avoiding travel to the US since the Patriot Act that followed 9/11 started that kind of shit and more in general the US started moving away from Democracy and into Autocracy.

Last time I felt like traveling to the North American continent I just went to Canada instead for a whole month - sea kayaking in British Columbia, hiking in the Canadian Rockies, sightseeing in Quebec . Highly recommended by the way.

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely!

I have family in the US. Uncles and aunts and cousins. One of my cousins have a child who I've never met. I would love to meet them all.

But there is no way I'm going to the states in the current condition. And even if the administration would be replaced, I think it would take years for the states to recover to the point where I would visit.

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[–] No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The United States is such a shithole country lol

No one should travel there.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Um excuse me, who else can defend peace and freedom and democracy? They make all the best weapons!

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

All my plans involving the US have been canceled for the foreseeable future. Fuck that place and Russia too.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (36 children)
[–] TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone 30 points 1 week ago

I have never had my phone searched for memes (or at all, for that matter) when entering China.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please be satire, please be satire...

reads

...Oh, fuck.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry for the mediocre source, but it looks like it got its facts and translation right.

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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] teft@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Same thing i asked the other guy who posted this.

Do you have a source that isn’t a tabloid? The only other sources i found were other tabloids.

I’m sure horrible shit is happening but tabloids aren't news. They are meant to get an emotional reaction via mistruths and exaggeration. And you having a one day old account makes this even more suspect.

[–] Yaysuz@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

It was reported first by Nordlys, a local newspaper based in Tromsø, and then picked up by ofher Norwegian media. The story is most likely true.

https://www.nordlys.no/mads-sin-drommereise-til-usa-spolert-pa-grunn-av-satirebilde-pa-mobilen/s/5-34-2171723

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But, but Elon told me comedy was legal now!

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mads Mikkelsen

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

See - this is the thing with people going on about how its so oppressive in countries outside of "The West" where they will arrest people for insulting their king on Facebook or some shit.

We are no better. I'm not American but Britain does the same kind of shit. Read some declassified police case files, the cops pick on weird shit on people's phones.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've been in Britain before, they didn't check my phone

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[–] TheAristocrat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you are doing any international travel, leave your personal phone at home and bring a burner.

[–] normis@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have traveled the world, I just returned from China. Nobody has ever asked for my phone. This is crazy and it's definitely not the norm and is not happening even in very strict regime countries. This is the new USA.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just get a burner to travel. Quit bringing your phones here.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Better yet, don't go at all. Go to a country that's still a democracy.

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[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

JD Vance meme

No, that’s just how he looks.

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[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Do they have the right to search your phone ?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They always had. The US border has this special exemption to the constitution that some of the normal protections don't apply.

If you are a citizen, they (legally speaking) can't deny you entry, but can jail (detain) you for 48 hours and seize all your belongings, and put your on a no-fly list if they wanted to.

If you are not a citizen, they could deny you entry on top of all that.

This was always the case in previous administrations, its just that in previous administration, they weren't this insane.

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[–] idriss@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago
[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome to the new authoritarian America. Brought to you by craven politicians and a huge group of dipshits who consistently vote against their best interests because they only consume information straight from the sewer pipe that is fox news. Free speech is under threat more with each passing day, and once the Palantir database is complete, they are really going to go all out with their oppression.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're just another one of those feckless authoritarian countries with weird-ass laws about not mocking or criticizing the government now. It's pathetic.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Up next pictures of couches

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