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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 203 points 2 years ago (7 children)

fun fact.

The US army gave people ammunition for free if it was used to kill bison for a period of time.

Bison almost went extinct.

Bison were a source of food for the natives.

I love american history!

[–] craftyindividual@lemm.ee 68 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Every 50 bison they killed they celebrated a bisontennial.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago
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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The official reason was the Bison herds were capable of destroying the fields of entire farms. We never stopped to ask if we should have been farming there in the first place.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they did stop to ask, and the answer they gave themselves was "yes".

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s just greed. They throw in god’s name to relieve themselves of any personal responsibility.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago

They also throw in God's name to get the religious rubes on board.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Ok. Native here. Get out, both of you.

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I thought some other place would take me, I would.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Go back to Ireland/Scotland? Sure. I need to bring news of what fun things Americans can do with potatoes back to the homeland anyways.

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[–] evroid@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's kind of disingenuous.

It portrays Orthodox Jewishness as being responsible for genocidal Zionism when Orthodox Jewishness has pretty much always been vehemently critical of both Zionism and the creation of Israel.

The Jewish Zionists that perpetrated the Nakba looked no different than their fellow Europeans.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think at this stage we can just call manifest destiny "Americanism."

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've met a guy who no shit said this to me as if it was a justification for Israel's actions in Gaza.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone mentioning the phrase "3000" years ago is saying it. The Zionist movement is less than 150 years old. The rest of that history is made up.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The notion of a "promised land" is a lie humans tell to themselves to monopolise the resources we all share with all living things.

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