By extension, ufo and alien abduction stories may be likened to animals trying to get others to believe they saw a tree flash a brilliant light late at night.
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It's called Dark Matter. C'mon, what's more likely, 85% of the universe is completely unobservable by chance? Or by design?
Any post-scarcity civilization that advances past Prime Directive territory just quantum-shifts half a dimension to the left so they can all hang out together without bothering anyone else.
Aliens don't judge you, though. No judgemental species can collaborate long enough to go Dark, you either evolve past those primitive instincts or self-destruct.
Which is probably why they haven't tried to make contact. "Oh look! It's a planet full of fundamentalist chimps with nuclear weapons" "should we pop over and say hi?" "Nah, fuck that noise!"
This is a topic in the 3 body problem series of books. The aliens have photons (?) that spy on everything the humans do so the humans have no way of planning against their attack without them knowing. The humans assign a few people to make plans with no oversight and without telling anyone else their plan.
Highly recommend the books.
photons (?)
Sophon
There was a TV SciFi series for kids with some guys from the future arriving in our time to solve an issue, and they had cameras the size of pins they could stick anywhere to see what's happening.
The fun of the series was that those guys from the future had barely a clue how to blend in in our time, with a historian of them trying to make them fit in.
judging
So when the hell do we find out the results from the judging? What can we win?
"Congratulations human! You've won the 'most depraved' award! You've been deemed not worth enslaving, instead you'll be rewarded with a swift and painless death!"
Not just cameras... Probes👽😮
The government and corporations can do that too
Bold of you to assume I'm unaware
Unless these aliens can break the laws of physics their cameras will produce heat and have to send signals somewhere. So we'll be able to detect them.
They could easily send the signals away from us. How would we detect something like that?
Satellites.
How would our satellites detect something outside normal orbits?
By looking at Earth? That's how most of them work.
Humans didn't even have the technology to observe most of the eletromagnegtic spectrum for like practically all of human history apart from the recent hundred of years or so, bold of you to assume there isn't higher form of techology that's undetectable to us. I mean, the North Sentinese and other uncontacted tribes around the world still can't even fanthom that we are talking to each other using radiowaves in the air.
There is this sci-fi novel called Three Body Problem and
spoiler
the aliens used a high tech AI supercomputer called the "Sophons" that can be invisible to humans and are spying on Earth in order to plan for an invasion. Humans only figured out after scientists started dying, seemingly mysteriously.
Its sci-fi, but like, they could just take advantage of the tech we already have and hack our servers to gather data, and even if humans figure it out about the hacking, they would just think it was human criminal and its just labeled as a "databreach". (Who knows, maybe one of the databreaches are actually just aliens gathering data.)
Like... goverments run by humans already out so much cameras in the streets, aliens can just... tap into the feed lol. Use our own surveillance state against us.
bold of you to assume there isn’t higher form of techology that’s undetectable to us.
I think it's very unlikely that there will ever be a technology that can get around fundamental laws of nature, like entropy.
Same way people in the past probably said there's no way you can make anything work without a mechanical mechanism? Can you imagine what an electronic device/chip would look to someone from far past? People thought humans couldn't fly.
Those "fundamental science" is just us making sense of the universe in a way we can observe it and even then we don't know everything. Can you imagine how different the universe looks if you just shift the electro magnetic waves you can see.
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I tried going down this line of thinking too, but any assumption you make is predicated on the belief that they would use means that we are familiar with. Just because we do not know of a way to do such and such does not mean it does not exist. This post is referring to a fundamental epistemic problem.
Heat is directed into the 8th dimension.
No wonder why the Red Lectroids are so permanently pissed off.
Yes, we are. Please stop masturbating. Thanks.
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Come down here and probe my anus, then, you gray cowards!
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Baby, tech companies are doing all that right now.
Except we've given them blanket permission
The birds are watching you.
Try leaving bird seeds. They'll know instantly, because they're always watching you.
If you don't leave bird seeds they will find your car and shit on it.
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Joke's on them, I'm vanilla AF.
You know that documentary show “Spy in the Wild” where they film animals using animatronics that look like those animals. Well aliens are probably doing it right now to us. Lifelike androids are among us. Some of us are even married to them and have kids with them. The aliens are so advanced that they can build human robots that are humanlike down to the cell.
They live!
Or maybe aliens just don’t care. We may not be that special.
Occasionally you do observe the woodpeckers in your backyard, but ignore the crows in the forest. Maybe there’s an ornithologist who cares about those crows, but most of us just can’t be bothered.
Try sun is the flash the universe is a camera
We are inside a black hole being observed.
I suspect they'll just stop bothering with the surveillance and go straight for reality tv and internet porn, much more telling of us as a whole
I mean, yeah. If someone had the technology to not only fly half a billion light years to get to our little mud ball (in person or with advanced machines) they'd have a trivial time hiding and blending in. Most likely for the same reason, since there's literally nothing we have that they could want other than to study us as a curiosity. The only resource we have that they couldn't find easier and more abundantly, or reproduce from samples, is our culture. That's it, that's the only thing we have that might be considered with the effort. Not water, air, energy, precious metals, phosphorous, brains, mates, food, slaves, vassals, soldiers, or anything else that would be worth the trip.
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Sofons be like.
You think I don't notice??? I say outloud "I WANT TO BUY CATFOOD!!!" and then suddenly later that week, by pure coincidence, at the supermarket, there just "happens" to be a whole isle of various pet foods??? Yeah. I think not! That whole scheme is just an alien scheme to get me to adopt that french cat who follows me around town speaking french all day! I tried telling him! MR CAT! I DON'T SPEAK YOUR FRENCH LANGUAGE!!! YOU NEED TO BEFRIEND A TRANSLATOR TO TALK TO ME!!! NO HABLAH ESPENOL!!!"
But there he is. Every day, just trying to talk to me like "J'ai un chat dans mon pantalon".
And you're trying to tell me this cat is just a natural wild animal? This is the work of aliens for sure! Otherwise this cat would walk to Quebec Canada where they tolerate that kind of frenchness.
What? You think cats give a shit about our borders, and passports??? Bitch, have you met a cat???
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