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I'm just going to leave this here: https://elan.school/ That's how I learned about this.
I read the whole thing, and it's haunting, there's no way this shit could be made up, the gravity is too insane, and there's also you know, evidence.
I just spent the three last days reading that as much as I could. I was enthralled. I just finished it and… what the actual fuck? How was that possible? And why none of the staff was jailed, even after the revelations?
That comic made me sob both the first time I read it, and when I came back to the finished product.
And yeah elan school has been sufficiently investigated to leave little chance that Joe wasn't being as truthful as someone can be about an incredibly traumatizing teenage experience.
Thanks for sharing this. I've still got quite a few chapters to go, but I wanted to comment this thought before I forget it: it's so incredibly striking how powerful the small acts of kindness are. I've cried more at the little gestures of kindness than at all the cruelty.
The problem with these services is they get you in the door with these too-good-to-be-true deals, but then you're locked into a bullshit subscription service every month. So you think you're saving a bundle on the kidnapping, but you end up paying out the ass every month for them to KEEP the kid. Enshittification at work once again.
Fucking Netflix, right? Ughh
Guess it’s time to share this again.
GET YOUR FEELINGS OUT
I’ve only been able to make it to page 10. People often mock the idea of being “triggered” but fuck, it makes me need my trazadone. I want to print this in full color and leave it everywhere I can.
Apologies for contributing to that feeling, definitely wasn’t my intention to upset you!
For those who haven’t read it and are unfamiliar with the horrific teen abuse industry this comic depicts, it’s quite a fucking journey.
It’s great - I actually shared it as one of the links in my post. People do need to know what these places look like, and that visceral reaction I have to it hopefully means that it inspires others.
I made it to chapter 60 over the last 90 minutes.
I can’t even describe how angry I feel about that. Expletives don’t fit. I’m not big on death penalty, but I think these people deserve it - more than some who are sentenced to death.
I also am feeling incredibly grateful that my parents didn’t get caught up in the scam.
Thank you for sharing this. Probably one of the hardest reads of my life, it's incredibly powerful and well written so it conveys the horrors of the experience in an almost visceral way.
It also really helped me understand at a much more personal level how these addiction/reeducation camps and cults break people mentally and emotionally.
Sure, you read about these kinds of things happening in the news, but it never hit home for me what that experience is like until reading this.
Thank you.
wtf
is this real? I didn't read past whenvhe was given anti lice to shower, but can you tell me : are yhe parents responsible for this ?
The parents often truly do not understand how bad these camps are and are often deceived by the institutions themselves. Part of the strategy is to make the treatment so outlandish and to use such strange terminology that the kids can’t properly communicate the abuse without sounding insane. Then they keep telling the parents “no matter what don’t listen to them. They will lie to get out of this. They need to finish it, to see it through, or they will end up in juvie on worse.”
It’s horrific
Facilities like this need to be burned down and the staff put to the headsmans axe, in fact did you know a shit tonne of them exist in Utah because of course they do.
Fun fact CPS wanted to send me to one as a child, luckily I was both a stubborn and clever little shit and my threat to burn things was taken seriously. My only condition to not burn things was to not go to it.
As satisfying as fantasizing about arson is, I imagine these facilities are usually insured. It’s also easy to spin into a sob story - these places often take advantage of the fact that they work with underprivileged/foster youth to get community donations. “Oh no, we can’t help children anymore! Gib us money!”
I got my facility taken off DonorsChoose - absolutely enraging that they were able to use that site as a for profit institution.
It’s a problem that needs to be attacked at the root ultimately. Children should have their rights protected. Remember how the US refused to sign the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child? We also need more parenting classes - I’ve never been given the opportunity to be a parent, but I’ve talked with lots of parents about things like Love and Logic. Or just even accepting the fact that kids can just be weird or different sometimes - I should not have been punished for being uncomfortable with eye contact.
In the short term, educating people about these individual facilities. Making sure that the children who die in these places have their names remembered. I make signs with the name of the child my abusers killed, and just blanket surrounding neighborhoods with it.
Even after countless exposés done on these places there are STILL no serious investigations being done. I’m so sorry that happened to you :(
Allegand Jones was killed after refusing to undress for a staff member. Youth Villages at Bartlett is still operating.
It’s these southern states. “Parental rights” is always a code for “children are property to be disposed as we wish.”
But if it's a got dam fetus
Well yeah, fetuses are the perfect thing to platform.
They don't make any demands on you.
As far as the US government is concerned at least, they don't require food, water, shelter, or any assistance. It's all on the mother. Not "the PARENTS", mind you. The mother.
Pregnancy complications? Mother's fault. Never mind that she couldn't get Healthcare, food, or shelter for herself. Those things are commie-social-Marxism if we just gave them to her.
And when the fetus pops out as a baby after hopefully 9 months, it's again on the mother to provide. Never mind that she can't afford Healthcare for herself or her child, or food, or daycare so she can work to afford those things, or, or, or...
And if you think otherwise, clearly you are a spawn of Satan and hate America, something something Jesus.
How is the USA a real country
Well considering that North Korea and Russia exist it’s not soooo far fetched. The real surprise is how it has been considered until recently as THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. We were so blind…
Tbf, only Americans considered America the best country in the world. The rest of us have seen it as a third world country in denial when it comes to social issues for decades. The only non-americans who think America is the greatest are people who live in scrap metal shacks in countries run by dictators and egotistical assholes who hate welfare and Healthcare.
I wonder how recently « the rest of us » built that opinion because from my 43 years as a European I certainly saw a lot of adulation of USA for as long as I remember. Even the healthcare pov is rather recent… For a long ass time they were certainly seen as our betters.
Post-WW2 industrial boom + Hollywood + Internet\media presence in US&EU anglosphere due to 300kk+ population.
I think for the persons under 50 this image started to fall apart with 9\11 + Lemon Brothers + the first Trump presidency.
The fact that these places exist and aren't shut down has always really bothered me, horrible stuff
the things they can justify with religion should give anyone pause.
There was a post recently, IIRC one of the kids ran away, the "camp" didn't report it, and the police killed the kid.
There was someone in the comments that defended it, they "worked in the industry". I didn't have the guts to call them out on working in the terrorism industry against children, even though my instance is getting deleted this month.
Fuck this and everyone involved
I just found out that my facility claimed another life, within the months I’ve been trying to get the state to investigate it. Not reported anywhere, just personally have been loud enough to have former employees reach out to me.
Fuck anyone involved who doesn’t become a whistleblower.
Sounds like you need to report Facebook to the FBI. Oh wait, Zuckerberg paid them off. We'll I guess we're fucked. Still.
Even before Zuckerberg, these groups often have a religious coating. US law enforcement lets religious groups do whatever they want until the problem becomes undeniable. Even then, they drag their feet, and Republican politicians look sad while talking about how religious liberty is being destroyed.
Some states absolutely have cracked down on these types of places, as they were notoriously used for conversion therapy, among other terrible purposes. I definitely went to one of these places when I was a rebellious teenager, but I was fortunate in only having to go on the weekends during the day. I was also fortunate that the place had some oversight by my state, as I quickly learned that all their "punishments" could easily be defeated by simply refusing to participate (e.g. refusing to run laps, clean the gym floor with a toothbrush, etc). I lasted maybe 3 weekends there before they kicked me out of their "program."
That was 20+ years ago, and it still kind of blows my mind that those places exist. Therapy and supportive parents will "correct" rebellious behaviors 90+% of the time.
The funniest thing about my story is that it was kind of the reverse of the regular one. My mom was the wild one who did drugs, and was trying to keep me from noticing.
I wasn’t really “troubled.” I didn’t do drugs, I was a shy weird kid with good grades, never acted up in school - I didn’t learn the word “blowjob” until we watched Why Did I Get Married as part of “group therapy.” My mom just was a munchausen psycho. The actual psychiatric hospitals she sent me to would pick up on that quickly, but these fucking places don’t care, they just want the cash.
Munchausen, oof... brutal, sorry you had to endure that as a kid. My wife is a children's therapist, specializing in play therapy for traumatized kids. It's definitely opened my eyes to how much misery in society could be dramatically reduced by simple early intervention in young children. So many problems in adulthood are rooted in untreated trauma. Anyway, I hope you're doing well now, despite having to go through that gauntlet of a mentally unwell parent as a kid.
Also, very much agree that these places should absolutely be nationally outlawed.
I don’t understand why these weren’t outright banned after the first time a kid got murdered at one, let alone the umpteenth time.
Zero surprise. IG regularly recommends/sponsors content that genocidal, pseudo-scientific, grifting, fascist, etc. I switched to Pixelfed for regular use.
I had IG ahowing me ads for Arab "housekeeping" services where you could pick your "housekeeper". Just straight human trafficking and sex slavery brought to you by the fine folks out in Silicon Valley
One of my kid's friends got sent to one of these camps. Luckily the parents chose not to have him kidnapped.
Get of facebook, instagram, TikTok. All of that. Want to stay in touch with your friends? Call them, text them.
I don’t use it so much to stay in touch with my friends as a platform to argue with fascists, Nazis, and child abusers.
The kinds of parents who are going to be looking at these programs are probably on Facebook, and that’s the best place to reach them.
Wtf is Elan and why am I only hearing about this now?
Where's the Johbn Oliver episode about this? Still in production?
Elan was thankfully finally shut down in 2011, so it’s no longer destroying children. Just took four decades!
The big issue, as I campaign to get my own torturers facility closed down, is that they weaponize privacy laws. Both the facilities and the state. They pretend they are protecting children by refusing to investigate. The double speak is fucking insane.