anti-science funding. the threat to fascists states are usually intellectual and science so they are often the first to be persecuted before minorities are. most of the people in the industries are smart enough to leave the country before sht hits the fan.
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If the federal government isn't going to give California back the federal taxes paid by its citizens then it should stop paying federal taxes.
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I hope this convinces Californians to sign the CalExit petition, so that California can start researching the option to secede. The way things are looking, the dissolution of the union seems likely. It would be better if California and the other blue states got prepared for that.
Sounds like California should cancel the taxes it would normally send to the fed.
That would break the bank. California is 4th largest economy in the world, after the U.S., China, and Germany. It would probably cause Trump to declare martial law and send troops to California.
I mean, good luck? CA is also obscenely well defended, since most of its modern wealth came from it being considered a battleground vs Japan and Russia, so there's loads of bases.
Most likely, this will just yet again be a defeat in court. That dude is just throwing shit against the wall and hoping some of it will stick.
so there’s loads of bases
Staffed with federal employees. Fort Hunter isn't going to protect Californians from the Pentagon. It is the Pentagon.
Also, and this is a much bigger deal, Gavin Newsome is a cowardly little parasite. He's not going to side with Californians on this. He's going to grovel on his belly and lick Trump's shoes hoping he can convince The Donald to relent.
Most likely, this will just yet again be a defeat in court.
So long as DOGE runs the US Treasury, it hardly matters. If Trump starts cancelling payments and reversing transactions at a California scale, he'll drag the whole country into recession overnight. Courts can issue orders, but only the Treasury has the power to authorize payments.
You're assuming Trump wouldn't also fuck over troops stationed here in California. Remember military personnel are reliant on local infrastructure in a lot of areas and if Trump starts fucking with it again the military may be caught in the crossfire.
I'm assuming the comment "declaring martial law" would require nat guard (natives) and stationed troops (federal) to attempt to impose order. Not sure what that has to do with local infra, but the last time they tried that (LA Riots) it didn't go great. Doing it for a strictly political reason would likely result in some very hard decisions for a lot of nat guard and some federal career military. The Nat Guard and federales couldn't even restore order in South Central when most of the state was in their corner, it'd be madness to think they could handle the whole state when it was over a pissing match.
California gets roughly $162.9 billion from the fed. California pays roughly $692 billion to the fed in taxes.
It'd be pretty easy to see them choosing to just withhold whatever Trump decided to deny them and say "fine, then we'll just make up the offset, suck it", and then things would get interesting indeed.
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Yeah but how the fuck would he pay the troops without, you know, California's money?
I maintain the quickest way for military and LEOs to drop support for Trump is realizing they aren't gonna get paid or that their money has become essentially worthless. Either scenario will pit them against him. If they can't feed their families they will turn, considering it's an all volunteer military. He would have to instate a harsh draft first to avoid that.
I'd love to sign up but I have really bad bone spurs...
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Remember, the state doesn’t pay taxes, individual citizens do by filling out their annual federal income taxes.
So, if “California” were to stop giving money to the federal government, the governor would basically need to convince individual citizens not to file their 1040.
And all of those people would have to clinch their assholes and hope Trump didn’t sick the IRS on them.
If we had less of a coward in sacramento, id say they could back us.
If Californians (Or everyone) just filed for extensions en masse, that alone would fuck shit up and would be totally legal.
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Presumably California would declare that they wouldn't comply with IRS investigations but those people would be vulnerable if they travel or have assets outside California
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Californexit
Califexit. Or Cali Fecks Off depending where n your point of view.
That's the problem California doesn't send taxes to the Federal government. People and businesses pay directly to the government. There's no mechanism to even stop it on a state level if a governor wanted to.
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I don't know all the ins and outs of this, but somehow I doubt that Trump has as much financial leverage against the fourth largest economy in the world as he apparently thinks he does.
I doubt it's him who thinks he does. Remember, Putin is calling the shots, and his goal is to destabilize and destroy the US.
Add NY, MA, AND NJ and you have a block that is on quite solid ground.
So Americans need to switch it off and on again. Gather up new founding fathers and mothers, write up a new constitution and declaration of independence - write up documents for a new federation between states...
Create a back up United States. Declare the old one null and void. Stop interacting with the old one. Start interacting with the new one.
Call all this something benign sounding. Try not to go to war about it. But yeah, you all need to switch this shit off and on again.
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The University of California is the largest employer in the state.
In most other states, Walmart is the biggest employer.
Talk about giving higher education the middle finger!
Is it because they are a hospital network like the University of Pittsburgh? (UPMC is the largest in PA)
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He's still mad that Schwarzenegger took over The Celebrity Apprentice
Holy shit. This would be so on brand for Trump that it's probably the main reason.
Another day another senile ramble
California should confiscate Trump National golf course.
Finally a good use of eminent domain
Turn it into a homeless shelter.
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