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There is a solution to this. Make a **perfect ** AI detecting tool. The only way I can think of is through adding a tag to every bit of AI-generated data,
Though it could easily be removed from text, I guess.And no, training AI to recognize AI will never work. Also every model would have to join this, or it won't work.
LOL you're suggesting people already doing something unbelievably stupid should do something smart to compensate.
Not stupid, greedy.
Him: Ugh I don't feel so good after all this data.
Her: Data is a nutritious source of information. However, ingesting too much data can trigger some unpleasant side effects. Here's what you can do to alleviate some of the symptoms:
Is there anything esle I can do for you?
Good.
How much money was invested in reminding us that if the snake starts eating its tail it's eating itself?
makes me think about the human centipede
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That is so much better than their attempt (the "Lord of the Flies for AI" byline). Captures the essence of the problem better than the ~~capitalism~~ cannibalism metaphor does, as well.
EDIT: That has to have been one of my favourite Freudian ADHD word-confusion typos I accidentally made there
Cuttlefish or asparagus?
AI dementia
Tragic and funny at the same time. As if consuming all of Reddit hadn’t already irreparably skewed things and that was still real people doing Reddit things. Now, released, it’s eating itself. This self-poisoning model seemed inevitable.
The great news is that these ponze schemes will either collapse or spend the next decade trying to fix it by creating algorithms which detect AI content so as to filter it out.
good news everybody!
you realize what this means, right?
who is causing all the backwashed data? the peasants.
who is training the models? the peasants.
who benefits the most from AI? the oligarchy.
I bet in a year or two, access to AI will be cost prohibitive and will be illegal to host without an expensive license.
how does this benefit the oligarchy you ask?
because the oligarchy is the government now, and AI needed the support of the peasants to get infrastructure up and running well enough to run on its own.
they're just going to use AI to oppress the peasants and ensure they know their place as slave labor.
congrats everyone who supported AI by praising and promoting it as a solution, you fucked yourself.
We have accessible, open-source AI models - your predictions won't come to pass.
Fortunately, they can't arrest everybody using open-source AI models. There are clear efforts to stop momentum with geo-tracking high-end GPUs and indirect efforts like the EU plan trying to backdoor everything.
Personally, I see it all as ineffective.
what about this current administration is effective?
I think you're under the misconception that standard legal rules apply with the current government.
There's a whole world out there - if anybody can effectively run these models, how will they know to stop everyone?
The current US administration and sphere of influence/power may be tyrannical, but they aren't omnipresent or omniscient - even if they try to be.
For example, I highly doubt China will be able to be stopped before they burst the AI dam. Honestly, they already have - these AI companies are just in denial because they need more capital for their proprietary, inefficient, and centralized models.
who is causing all the backwashed data? the peasants.
No, actually, it's the shitty slop sites. I mean they are usually not made by Big Tech, but it is also not your rando Twitter posts either.
I bet in a year or two, access to AI will be cost prohibitive and will be illegal to host without an expensive license.
I can run a Chinese model on my sub-1000 EUR GPU right now and generate all the word salad I want. I know, I know, they will make better models. But that's the point, if they lock away better models, all the slop will be made with the worse models.
The point is, all this means is that you can't infinitely train AI on random internet content, and the value of social media as an AI training data source is going down since they are also getting infected with slop. This is actually a good thing, because one way SaaS models could have gotten better than freely hostable ones is by having access to data that is not openly accessible.
These news mean that data they could have used as a differentiator is a pile of hot shit.
you're a peasant and don't even realize it because you're not a part of the "club". same as all those slop sites. they aren't part of the club and so they're lowly peasants.
there were talks of making those Chinese models illegal. not much harder to just say anyone that's not in the club can't have one either, and if you're caught you go to jail.
Yeah, but how do you even make them illegal? Most of them are fly-by-night places, you can use a 600 EUR GPU to generate slop with a 4 gig model, the worse it is the more it hurts data collection.
They couldn't even get rid of phone farms. Cat's out of the bag.
did you know that most Texas Instruments software and hardware is illegal to use if you're not using it for the further advancement of American interests?
and if you're caught you can face prison time and possibly even visit a black site if you're charged under the espionage act.
does it happen? sure. will you get caught maybe not...but they don't go looking for people unless they're bad people.
this current administration will target every average citizen that isn't affiliated with one of the oligarchs before they target the actual bad guys.
How would they stop going to a different country where the AI license doesnt exist?
ever heard of the pirate bay? they certainly got fisted by the long arm of American Jurisprudence even though they weren't in the US...