this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2024
221 points (97.0% liked)

News

36043 readers
2862 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.


Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.


If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.


All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 149 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (79 children)

People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to "win" an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

It's very true. We've been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it's mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

Y'all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I think you'll start to see a lot more excitement in the next few weeks.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Props to the French voters for shutting out the Rally.

Most of the French voters.

Damn good job in the second round.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Thanks for your support! And very happy to see your success in France.

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
load more comments (73 replies)
[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (27 children)

I'll say just one thing:

Every single one of you assholes who wouldn't shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.

A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let's honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Am one of those "assholes". Kamala was far from my favorite candidate in 2020, but I just donated a hefty (for me) chunk of change and will be volunteering. I didn't need perfection, just a feasible path to victory in November and now we have it. I'm so pumped right now, project 2025 no longer looks like an inevitability. LFG!

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Riley Reid: Oh god you're going to make me vote

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (24 replies)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 years ago (116 children)

I don't understand you people in this thread.

Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they're doing? Are you for real? They're doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They're doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

Sincerely,

A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well, to be fair, he should have stepped down a year ago, or at least 3 months ago. I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

Anyway, I respect Biden. I honestly think he was a better president than Obama, Bush, Trump and Clinton. Perhaps the best since Carter or JFK.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

You're correct, he did. Everyone forgot that for some reason. Note that this article is from 2019:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Those are not necessarily the same people.

But there is no good option here. The good option would have been to run a good candidate over a year ago. That time has obviously long since passed.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (114 replies)
[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well guys... Have you seen Trump's mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?

Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now... That is... What we have been saying? Right guys?

[–] ziltoid101@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't mentally decline if you were never sound of mind in the first place!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yeah, but they don't care. They don't want a competent and coherent president. They want Trump, because he hates the same people they hate, and he's not afraid to say so.

The teams don't play by the same rules and never have.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Trump gets attention for nearly getting assassinated.

Biden: Hold my Metamucil

[–] pikmeir@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Unrelated but Metamucil is actually pretty awesome. I love spicy food but my stomach isn't so good at it, but if I take fiber beforehand I'm usually okay. Although since it's just fiber you can usually just get the store brand to do the same thing.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My aunt was laughing at Biden and how old he is. I reminded her that Trump is only 2 years younger and shits his diapers regularly

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Biden did several classy things during some real fuckin difficult times. I can't imagine how tough this decision was. I really hope we as a country can galvanize solid opposition and keep Trump/Vance's asses out. Let's be grateful for the good Biden has done, and if Kamala is the next up that gets the nomination, support the hell out of her.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So well played!....let them spend millions and millions on a campaign against Joe, then as soon as Dumbnald was picked, Joe bugs out and in his place....first black woman multiracial presidential candidate. Vs. crazy rapist felon, who would win?

C'mon republicans! Your move! 😉. Maybe bring back the girl who can see Alaska from her house because she lives in Alaska and not ruzzia.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

Wait wait, let me guess, now all of the sudden we're not literally fascists for thinking that it would be best if Biden stepped down. A sincere fuck you too everyone who commented accordingly for the last month.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Biden is our democratic palisade to the January 6th coup on the United States of America.

Whatever else Biden did, Biden stopped the flood. That is the Biden legacy to me.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (58 children)

The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.

Now, we have:

  • A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
  • A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
  • The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
  • A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
  • Future of SCOTUS.

If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she'll do fine.

The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it's a whole new ballgame.

I'm actually stoked about this race again.

load more comments (58 replies)
[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

for everyone sake: phew. i feel sorry for him, he obviously lacks energy and needs to not be trying to run america and fight trump.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] credo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (22 children)

I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.

Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

Biden absolutely did the right thing and, perhaps, the most courageous thing.

Democrats would have coalesced around him if decided to keep going but we've been begging him to step aside. This is a key difference between Trump "fans" and Biden voters. We're not drawn to him as a personality.

Once a candidate is selected, I don't care who it is, we must support them because not doing so is voting for an end to democracy.

The fact that we're here is a travesty.

load more comments (21 replies)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

honestly you have a chance to do better here now

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Oh boy, I can't wait for armchair pundits who were calling for Joe to step down to now turn around and start to nitpick Harris as if that wasn't going to be the obvious successor.

I'm 100% behind Harris or anyone who gets the Dem nom. Trump must be stopped.

This is still a battle for America's soul. Are we going to accept the first female president or the first convicted felon president? I sure hope the left turns out for this one, even if they aren't super stoked about it, because we might never recover from another Trump disaster.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She's an improvement and is sufficient to beat Trump.

I'm not going to discourage party leadership when they're actually listening for once.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (22 replies)
[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (13 children)

That’s why I’m never gonna cancel my USA subscription. Your shows always have a crazy twist right before the season finale.

Jokes aside: Not a single person who even considers voting for Trump is worth any hassle. Their vote is a coin flip on fucking acid. The dems should try to animate the lazy nonvoting pricks.

load more comments (13 replies)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it's unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there's no doubt he made the right decision for him.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

As far as I can tell based on articles I've read, he really wanted to run, but the party was getting divided over calls for him to step down. He must have figured that the infighting would take away his incumbent advantage

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I respect the decision and it means he goes out on top. It must have been a difficult decision, but he was one of the better presidents (I see an historian pol ranking him 14th best) and I believe history will remember him even better. I wish Joe Biden all the best in retirement.

Now comes the hard part. How do we avoid him having to say “I told you so”? How do we avoid repeating the disaster of the worst ranked President in history?

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›