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[–] Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (79 children)

People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to "win" an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

It's very true. We've been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it's mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

Y'all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I think you'll start to see a lot more excitement in the next few weeks.

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[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Props to the French voters for shutting out the Rally.

Most of the French voters.

Damn good job in the second round.

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Thanks for your support! And very happy to see your success in France.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago (27 children)

I'll say just one thing:

Every single one of you assholes who wouldn't shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.

A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let's honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Am one of those "assholes". Kamala was far from my favorite candidate in 2020, but I just donated a hefty (for me) chunk of change and will be volunteering. I didn't need perfection, just a feasible path to victory in November and now we have it. I'm so pumped right now, project 2025 no longer looks like an inevitability. LFG!

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Riley Reid: Oh god you're going to make me vote

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 50 points 8 months ago (116 children)

I don't understand you people in this thread.

Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they're doing? Are you for real? They're doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They're doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

Sincerely,

A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Well, to be fair, he should have stepped down a year ago, or at least 3 months ago. I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

Anyway, I respect Biden. I honestly think he was a better president than Obama, Bush, Trump and Clinton. Perhaps the best since Carter or JFK.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

You're correct, he did. Everyone forgot that for some reason. Note that this article is from 2019:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Those are not necessarily the same people.

But there is no good option here. The good option would have been to run a good candidate over a year ago. That time has obviously long since passed.

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[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Well guys... Have you seen Trump's mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?

Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now... That is... What we have been saying? Right guys?

[–] ziltoid101@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can't mentally decline if you were never sound of mind in the first place!

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, but they don't care. They don't want a competent and coherent president. They want Trump, because he hates the same people they hate, and he's not afraid to say so.

The teams don't play by the same rules and never have.

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[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 39 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Trump gets attention for nearly getting assassinated.

Biden: Hold my Metamucil

[–] pikmeir@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Unrelated but Metamucil is actually pretty awesome. I love spicy food but my stomach isn't so good at it, but if I take fiber beforehand I'm usually okay. Although since it's just fiber you can usually just get the store brand to do the same thing.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

My aunt was laughing at Biden and how old he is. I reminded her that Trump is only 2 years younger and shits his diapers regularly

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[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Biden did several classy things during some real fuckin difficult times. I can't imagine how tough this decision was. I really hope we as a country can galvanize solid opposition and keep Trump/Vance's asses out. Let's be grateful for the good Biden has done, and if Kamala is the next up that gets the nomination, support the hell out of her.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (5 children)

So well played!....let them spend millions and millions on a campaign against Joe, then as soon as Dumbnald was picked, Joe bugs out and in his place....first black woman multiracial presidential candidate. Vs. crazy rapist felon, who would win?

C'mon republicans! Your move! 😉. Maybe bring back the girl who can see Alaska from her house because she lives in Alaska and not ruzzia.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Biden is our democratic palisade to the January 6th coup on the United States of America.

Whatever else Biden did, Biden stopped the flood. That is the Biden legacy to me.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Wait wait, let me guess, now all of the sudden we're not literally fascists for thinking that it would be best if Biden stepped down. A sincere fuck you too everyone who commented accordingly for the last month.

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[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (6 children)

This whole Biden stepping down vs Trump saga is a metaphor for the American baby boomer generation's approaches to their own reckoning of their old age and their reluctance to pass down the torch to another generation.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh God yes, and it is reflected in my own family members who are all in their 70s. They strongly believe that a 70 or 80 year old is in "the prime of their life" and that "I have never been of sharper mind and more capable than at the age of 74."

Just totally delusional. "Me" generation indeed.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 months ago (58 children)

The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.

Now, we have:

  • A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
  • A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
  • The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
  • A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
  • Future of SCOTUS.

If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she'll do fine.

The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it's a whole new ballgame.

I'm actually stoked about this race again.

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[–] lycanrising@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

for everyone sake: phew. i feel sorry for him, he obviously lacks energy and needs to not be trying to run america and fight trump.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (22 children)

I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.

Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago

Biden absolutely did the right thing and, perhaps, the most courageous thing.

Democrats would have coalesced around him if decided to keep going but we've been begging him to step aside. This is a key difference between Trump "fans" and Biden voters. We're not drawn to him as a personality.

Once a candidate is selected, I don't care who it is, we must support them because not doing so is voting for an end to democracy.

The fact that we're here is a travesty.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

honestly you have a chance to do better here now

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (23 children)

Oh boy, I can't wait for armchair pundits who were calling for Joe to step down to now turn around and start to nitpick Harris as if that wasn't going to be the obvious successor.

I'm 100% behind Harris or anyone who gets the Dem nom. Trump must be stopped.

This is still a battle for America's soul. Are we going to accept the first female president or the first convicted felon president? I sure hope the left turns out for this one, even if they aren't super stoked about it, because we might never recover from another Trump disaster.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She's an improvement and is sufficient to beat Trump.

I'm not going to discourage party leadership when they're actually listening for once.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (13 children)

That’s why I’m never gonna cancel my USA subscription. Your shows always have a crazy twist right before the season finale.

Jokes aside: Not a single person who even considers voting for Trump is worth any hassle. Their vote is a coin flip on fucking acid. The dems should try to animate the lazy nonvoting pricks.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I'm nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it's unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there's no doubt he made the right decision for him.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

As far as I can tell based on articles I've read, he really wanted to run, but the party was getting divided over calls for him to step down. He must have figured that the infighting would take away his incumbent advantage

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I respect the decision and it means he goes out on top. It must have been a difficult decision, but he was one of the better presidents (I see an historian pol ranking him 14th best) and I believe history will remember him even better. I wish Joe Biden all the best in retirement.

Now comes the hard part. How do we avoid him having to say “I told you so”? How do we avoid repeating the disaster of the worst ranked President in history?

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