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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"You forgot your wife's birthday again. Why can't you be more like your cousin Jeffery? You need to lose weight."

"Shut up!!"

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago

No. If you want privacy, transportation is the wrong career. Trains are much the same.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Shit in the glove compartment to assert dominance.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 hours ago
  • Talk to your union
  • If you don't have a union, form one
  • If no one else cares, get a new job trucking
[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (8 children)

Those Solera devices you've got are relatively common automotive IoT fleet trackers. They usually have gps antennas. They talk to the engine and transmission directly over canbus. Then they process that data and report what they see over a cell network. If they see nothing, they report that too with a heartbeat signal and various error codes.

Depending on the model, they sometimes have external cell antennas connected with a mini coaxial cable. Find it and unscrew it all the way, then re-screw it in by only 1 and a half rotations so it'll hang on but barely. Then clip the nearest ziptie so the cable wobbles free. It'll cause the nut on the coax to get a stress fracture in under a year. They will have to replace the gps/cell antenna module and those are like $300 a piece through Samsora. In the meantime you'll get iffy signal responses. Don't let them catch you cutting the zip tie on camera or you WILL lose your job.

Your truck will be in the maintenance shop relatively frequently at the request of whoever reads the reports for repair of that cell module. They won't find anything wrong with it, scratch their butts, then just screw it back down and replace the ziptie.

Unscrew it and clip it again.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 54 points 13 hours ago (18 children)

don't let them catch you, you WILL lose your job

Hey director of IT for a trucking company here, i just want to reiterate this part!

Don't fucking do this. Any of this advice. You WILL lose your job and we WILL blacklist you from the industry for this shit. Maybe if you drivers could actually mange your fucking log books and follow the safety regulations we wouldn't need to have ELDs and camera and GPS and fucking canbus monitoring and annual inspections and all of the other """invasive nonsense""" the government requires.

I dont want it either. Its all crazy expensive, annoying to manage, and I have to constantly deal with drivers complaining about it.

Sorry. I'm a little upset with this issue because its a constant issue i have at work. But no there is nothing you can do besides just get another job.

I just want to reiterate it again. Do NOT mess with the equipment your company has in your truck. At best you'll just get fired but I've seen my company respond with legal measures in the past.

[–] expr@programming.dev 1 points 1 minute ago

You're the fucking problem. Maybe if you treated people with humanity and worked towards a common solution instead of using technology to drain people's souls, you wouldn't have people that hate the shit you're slinging.

What you do makes the world a worse place to live in.

[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

I’m a little upset with this issue because its a constant issue i have at work.

maybe find a new job where you don't act like completely garbage manager? or work to find a human centric solution rather than... oppressive digital technologies?

I hope you end up with a neurolink in your skull and are constantly monitored for wrongthink.

[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

you drivers could actually mange your fucking log books and follow the safety regulations

you are part of the reason everyone hates management. the overburden of society by technofascists like you will result in many horrible repercussions down the line.

giving nerds any power over workers was a mistake

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

My dude. How would you like a camera over your shoulder every minute of your workday, recording your every move? What might you do faced with that?

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

I work in an office with cameras ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Reading this thread is really selling that dream job.
You all keep doing what you're doing and there will be no drivers left to squeeze out and make their life even more miserable.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

truckgpt will be here soon, unfortunately

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That’s the idea. Replace them with driverless vehicles.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The IT lackey just trying to make ends meet has no say in this process.

[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

this is a similar argument to the nazis. this is how bureaucracy and management normalize oppressive conditions. a bunch of weak yes-men

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 61 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe if you drivers could actually mange your fucking log books and follow the safety regulations we wouldn't need to have ELDs and camera and GPS and fucking canbus monitoring

Those companies would deploy this shit anyways even if the logs were perfect. Anything to blame the employee can and will be deployed.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Same old shit. Companies treat employees like machines and numbers on a spreadsheet and demanding more and more productivity while paying lip service to rules and regs yet knowing that employees will skirt, bend, or break the rules to meet whatever sterile metric the beancounters set within the expected window.

Don’t meet the metric? Get some bad performance reviews. Start referencing the safety rules that slow you down? Not a team player. Get fired for some nebulous problem.

Most of the time it’s ignored, but when something goes wrong the company just blames the employee for failing to follow regs.

Automated system reporting just keeps the costs down by creating a higher turnover of employees.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Those companies would deploy this shit anyways even if the logs were perfect.

I want to say that businesses are famous for spending enormous amounts of money to fix a solved problem sarcastically but I've been working too long to believe it.

Still, so much of the problem isn't with the monitoring but the annoying middle-management response of stack-ranking all the drivers. Rather than just playing your hand, big employers are constantly trying to reshuffle and "optimize" staff in order to squeeze out an extra ounce of profit. And the end result is everyone being immiserated in order to give someone with a marginal fluctuation in performance a raise.

Anything to blame the employee can and will be deployed.

Shit rolls downhill.

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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 54 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Trucking is so funny. There is an adversarial relationship between the drivers and the office, which you can see in this comment.

The industry is trying to solve safety issues caused by the nature of long haul driving and maintenance of profit in logistics by companies that use their services.

Trucking used to be a way a person could provide for their family, remain independent, and feel in control. Now, trucking is an industry where you are trapped in a moving computer designed primarily to reduce the insurance rates of the company that employs them, because their business practices and demands were so dangerous, individuals truckers had to drive more hours, get paid less for those hours, and literally drive themselves, and other motorists around them when they crashed, to death.

Then they blame the truckers as they race to bottom in hiring. Don't even get me started on nafta. Your industry sucks for the employees who are necessary to keep the economy moving.

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[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Who tf references a truck driver blacklist?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

HR, always.

This is literally 90% of what they're paid to do.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

This is gonna blow your mind... But other transportation companies...

Truck driving companies.....??

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

The safe way to fight back is through the trucking unions, which don't seem interested in getting rid of this invasive software.

But if every trucker did this they couldn't blacklist them all.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

Unions aren't interested in pushing back against the invasive software because they know drivers haven't been following the rules.

Basically nobody in the industry wants this. It makes it harder to do our jobs, it's more annoying, and it's crazy expensive. But it's what you gotta do when drivers run 2 or 3 log books.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

This is the reason Unions exist.

Individually you have no power. As a group you do have power to force them to revoke these decisions.

Your choice is joining a Union or not.

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[–] Decq@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you paid by the hour or per delivery? If by hour, malicious compliance. Stay 5mph below speed limit because you don't want to be flagged. AI doesn't recognize the street as such? Take a long detour, it didn't allow me to take that route. It complains about overtaking? Never overtake ever again someone was to close to the truck when you tried to back in? Never back in again unless the premises is completely clear of people. Oh and find a better employer. An employer that doesn't trusts its employees is never worth it.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 hours ago

It's usually per mile if its long haul, which is the root of all the problems because that incentivizes the driver to go faster and spend less time on other things. And it fucks the driver over because they don't get paid if they're not moving, even if they're waiting on someone else.

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