What's an MOT?
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British car road worthiness inspection.
LOL! I would pay to be there to see that!😀
In case, like me, you don't/didn't know:
The MOT test (or simply MOT) is an annual test of vehicle safety, roadworthiness aspects and exhaust emissions required in the United Kingdom for most vehicles over three years old.
It's still wild to me that any developed nation DOESNT have mandatory road worthiness inspections.
Texas in the US just got rid of safety inspections this year. They still do emissions testing for cars newer than 25 years, but it is up to the county and most rural counties don't.
You still have to pay the inspection fee.
Melbourne, Australia: Zero inspections ever.
I purchased a used car a decade ago and I have never had a mechanic service it or inspect it. I had a proper shop do a head gasket swap 5 years ago and I legit think I could have done a better job just reading the workshop manual and having a go.
It won't get forced into a roadworthy check unless a cop pulls me over for something super obvious like smoke billowing out the side.
I know someone who bought a car second-hand and onsold it 5 years later with the same oil that was originally in it.
I'm a bit confused by this. When I bought a used car in Melbourne around 6 years ago I had to get a roadworthy check done I in order to get it registered. So maybe the law has changed since you bought yours?
It also says you need one if you buy a used vehicle:
You'll need a roadworthy certificate (RWC or ‘roadworthy’) when selling a car, re-registering it, or clearing some defect notices.
I remember it beeing quite a pain, too. I bought the car and had to register it online (temporal for 24 h) to move it home. Cost me 50 AUD to do so. Then I had to move it to the roadworthy test a couple km of days later = another 50 AUD. But my battery was dead and I couldn't move it. So 50 AUD wasted. Didn't get them back, since you need to cancel a registion 24 hours in advance. Second time and another 50 AUD later I drove it to the roadworthy ckeck. Needed to change some minor stuff, took them a couple of days. The mechanic tooed my vehicle to my home so I didn't have to pay another 50 AUD to move it back once he was done. But I had to pay another 50 AUD to move it to the registration place.
So I payed 200 AUD on top just to get the bloody thing registerd. On a car that I payed 300 bucks for. Fucking moneysucking fuckers.
That's right. It needs to have a RWC when you transfer it into you name, and it never gets checked after that.
You'd think from the $900 it costs to register a car for a year, there would be a budget to have a mechanic look over it for 20 minutes.
Seems for EU it's mandatory for all members
The EU Directive 2014/45 of April 3, 2014 mandates all member states to carry out periodic safety and emission (roadworthiness) inspections for most types of motor vehicles including passenger cars, light and heavy goods vehicles, trailers, tractors with designed speed exceeding 40 km/h and, from 1 January 2022, motorcycles with engine displacement over 125 cm3
France: every two years. May be different (4 years ?) for cars under 10 year old, but I wouldn't know.
I guess New Zealand isn't a developed nation. That makes me sad
Wut? Don't you need a WOF any more?
In Florida they break trucks on purpose to emit extra carbon called rolling coal. We obviously don't have inspection here.
You should check out some of the state rules in the US. Some are strict, others don’t even exist
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In the US they're normally called car inspections, if the state/county even has them (yes, we're monsters over here more and more).
Why would you need to talk to anyone for an annual test? Is it typical to try and upsell a repair, like in the cheap oil change places? All the inspection centers I've ever used they want you in and out, and the most they'll try to sell is a replacement wiper or bulb because what you have won't pass. They just ask if you want to pay for it installed now to pass or come back later after you do it.
Not really. In California it's called a smog check
And many American states do not have any kind of mandatory inspection
The UK MOT covers a lot more than just emissions. The vehicle needs to have appropriate tyre tread, windscreen in safe working order, no check engine light, etc. And mileage is recorded to reduce potential for fraud. Many other things are checked.
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I work in cyber security and have gotten to work with some very talented female engineers. It’s always shocking to me the amount of disrespect some third party will display towards them. Like talking down or whatever.
What’s also entertaining is watching my coworkers absolutely destroy these ass hats.
I'm studying cybersecurity and there are barely any women, but our directors are always encouraging them to participate and speak more. I'm friends with some of them and they hardly encounter anyone hostile. There are some men that speak behind their backs, but I'm glad a lot of people defend them and are open about their stance against sexism and misogyny. It'd always funny when anyone says something sexist and everyone around responds making fun of them or just ignoring them and leaving them alone on their comments.
Of course, it's not perfect, but I'm glad that it's getting better. Also, women were the whole top 3 or 5 of all students in our faculty lol
Yea I’ve never understood the negative reaction to working with women in cyber security but those people are losers anyway.
On another note, how are you liking cyber security? Any questions? Concerns? Areas you’re interested in?
And they certainly look like losers lol
Hmm, I'm liking it very much. I've been self-hosting as part of my learning journey so I can understand better the things I learn and apply them. Right now I'm concerned with people replacing security roles with AI, but it's México and we're so behind in cybersecurity I think I can worry later. I want to go into GRC or auditing, any tips?
I like a lot of different areas, I'm thinking about following one of my teachers ideas and also offer freelance monitoring solutions. I try to learn a bit of everything so I can stay ready :)
BTW, if you know any software that's very used so I can start checking out, I'd be glad to hear about it. I know the FOSS alternatives are not that common and that's what I have to use rn
Self hosting is the way to go. I’d suggest looking into open source projects for something you might be passionate about. Like, if you like gardening you could set up a time to turn gardening lights on, water systems, ect..those types of projects, when using open source apps, REALLY speed up you’re understanding of how systems communicate with each other.
I work for a company that has offices in Spain (estoy aprendiendo español para mi trabajo) and Spain has a lot of jobs in tech, if you wanted to explore other areas.
GRC tools, I’ve only used ZenGRC but that was for a short time and I don’t focus on that, so I’m not the best resource for that. I do work with Data Governance tools that will usually work closely with GRC type tools, if that’ll help.
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I'm going to press (X) for Doubt.
I've been watching F1 for decades, and I can't remember there ever being a chief mechanic who is female. In addition, there was a lot of press a year ago about the first female mechanic in F1. Not chief mechanic, just mechanic.
Also, for those who don't know, the mechanics in F1 are also the pit crew. The person who decides when it's safe for the car to leave the box after the tires are changed is typically the chief mechanic. They used to be known as "the lollipop man" because they carried a sign at the end of a long pole that they used to tell the driver when to leave the pit box. These days they use a digital stoplight sort of device, so they're not literally standing out in front of the car anymore, but they're still near the front holding a signalling box. The lollipop man / chief mechanic is a very visible position in F1, and a female chief mechanic would have definitely drawn a lot of attention.
This guy says that he knows nothing about cars. Could he have been referring to someone who was an important mechanic but not the chief mechanic? Sure. Could he have meant Formula 2 or some other racing formula instead of Formula 1? Sure. Could this just be a bullshit story made up for internet points? Yes. I really don't think there has been a female chief mechanic of an F1 team yet. But, if I'm wrong, I'm certainly interested in who it is/was.
Lying? For karma??? Not on my Internet!
a bullshit story made up for internet points? Yes
Uh... A BULLSHIT STORY?
At this time of the year, at this time of day, in this part of the Internet, localized entirely within this instance!?
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May i ear it?
I knew one you formula 1 nerds would come out swinging.
I've seen this loads of times and it's a really funny meme. Everyone in the know says it's not true sadly, but I'm glad OP posted it
It's an obvious bullshit story.
once some middle aged lady came up to me in public and asked me for help to pick what oil she should buy at a gas station for her car. I have never driven a car in my life so I asked why she wouldnt just ask the person workin in the gas station and her answer was: "cuz shes a woman".
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i hate this shit. when its my wife's decision to get/do something, she always starts the conversation but the person regularly turns and talks to me.
i dont know what the fuck my wife wants, im here as arm candy. you deal with her.
i had to tell the same salesman this 4 times in the same 2 minute conversation when we went to pep boys.
just pull out your phone and play a videogame when they start ignoring your wife. Give them the same treatment as they give your wife and never make eye contact. Then just go “bruh my wife is talking to you, I don’t know shit” while you stare at your screen.
Your first mistake was going to Pep Boys. Maybe just me (I have a longstanding vendetta against them), but they are the worst of the auto parts chains.
Napa or O'Reilly's. AutoZone and AAP only exist for me if I can abuse their online coupons. Pep boys may as well not exist.
There's a test my job does where during a interview, if the candidate doesn't address the woman at the table or answer her questions, they don't get hired.
That experience really gave insights to those subtle red flags.
Wife and I do that now to every single service we meet. We both walk up to the counter, I don't say a god damn thing and my wife starts speaking. And if they start responding only to me, we leave.
I used to work at a petrol station, that used to be part of an auto-shop.
I was young and could barely a thing about cars. My boss, a grown woman, had worked there for several years, knew every item we had in stock, what they are used for and all the different names people have for them.
Whenever we worked together, people would still ask me for help even though I was busy doing something else. They’d rather stand and wait for me to be free, than ask her for help.
I’d make a point out of asking my boss for help with finding the items they needed.
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This is such a common story that when you get trained to sell cars they frequently stress asking whom the vehicle is for and then directing your focus to them unless it is a child and the parents are buying the car.
Years ago, I had a Jetta and while stopped at a red light someone rear ended me. Ficked the trunk up and the muffler was dragging on the ground. Insurance couldn't pay for the entire thing to be fixed but I hella needed the muffler to not drag on the street so I went to a shop to see what they could do. I just wanted a quote. They instead took the liberty of tack welding it to the frame, then tried to charge $300 for it. It took less than 10 minutes of time and used no parts. Told them I wouldn't pay more than $25 for that; I may not know cars, but I know how easy (and shitty) a tack weld is.
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