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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

That's the point. Trump wants you hopeless so you'll sell your land to his billionaire buddies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump did that the first time. How could you not think, after him campaigning on tariffs, that he wouldn't do it again? This is just your own fault for voting for him...again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You know how they overproduced purple hearts in anticipation of an invasion of mainland Japan that never happened? Imagine if that happened and yet they still fell short on numbers, except instead of casualties of war it's idiots getting fucked by Trump and instead of purple hearts it's "fell for it again" awards. That's where we're at.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Fuck em. They voted for this. Or are now complacent in it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Have the day you voted for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good. Alfalfa is right up there with almonds as one of the most wasteful crops in existence.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No alfalfa stands alone. Stop peddling nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Almonds are the single most wasteful crops in terms of water usage, regardless of how you measure it. Less water is wasted on the entirety of pig and chicken farming combined, than is wasted on almonds.

Alfalfa is awful, almonds are pointlessly, ridiculously bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Unintended consequence of sl helping the environment and water table while leopards eat some faces.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Because this time, the Con in charge will surely help you out. Surely this time. Surely.

Put on your clown noses, you dipshits. You will keep voting for them despite their obvious track record for being BAD FOR THE FUCKING ECONOMY.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Good thing Trump saved you from all the awful foreigners dragging America down tho right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No aid to those MAGAts without severe concessions on their part!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They should concede to use less oxygen from now on, at least 99% less.

Truly Make America Great Again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Oh noes. Oh well! ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Moving on. Something about leopards and faces.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah everyone in the thread is 'fuck them drumpf voters' but your food prices are going to be ridiculous next month so keep memeing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think the average poster eats alfalfa.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's a ridiculously naive take, do you think that because this article focuses on one specific crop that this is the only one the tariffs will affect?

Are you 5?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where did you miss that the topic of the discussion was alfalfa?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

No, the topic is 'MAGA farmer vafo's', just this particular facet is an alfalfa famrer

there is literally no requirement for the crop to be specific for this exact refrain to play ten thousand times

It's the sign of a small mind to be unable to address the bigger picture

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Wouldn't this be a good thing for the fresh water supply in the US if the US stopped exporting alfalfa.

Sure, I didn't read this article, so I'm just going off all the previous years of articles about how much fresh water this is using. And I've never researched the downstream effects of cattle in the middle east becoming more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

Answer:

  • The water-intensive farming is absolutely fucking the ecology of the American southwest in a way that's effectively irreversible on human timescales.
  • The money being generated by this farming is going to a select few completely undeserving, morally bankrupt people who know the damage they're doing and are hoarding swathes of land and water rights they were given for effectively nothing generations ago.
  • This alfalfa is then shipped internationally to Saudi Arabia literally halfway across the world, generating greenhouse gas emissions and other forms of pollution.
  • This alfalfa is then used to grow cattle, meaning that value is being extracted from the US – at a meager cost compared to the externalities we bear – and given to the theocratic shithole whose entire economy is based on destroying the planet that is Saudi Arabia.
  • Edit: the cows produce a bunch of methane over their lifetime.
  • The cows are then brutally murdered for food despite extensive evidence that cows can feel pain and do feel emotions like fear.
  • This cow meat is then fed to people despite the fact that 1) red meat is a class 2a carcinogen (and frankly in light of evidence that vegetarian and vegan diets reduce risks of certain cancers by double-digit percentages, we're all just waiting until it's confirmed rather than heavily suspected as a carcinogen), 2) it substantially increases the risk of heart disease, and 3) it elevates the risk for diabetes when compared to plant-based foods which are cheaper and less resource-intensive to create.

It's a benefit to essentially everyone if alfalfa farming becomes less profitable. The entire chain from water to cow meat is unjust, cruel, and otherwise fucking terrible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Just wanted to say I've had you marked with notes before as someone really good with your research, but each time I see your longer answers I make sure to take the time to read it. Really appreciate the knowledge transfer on a lot of your posts, please don't stop!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would would have been cool if you'd left out the vegan propaganda

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So, caring about the environment = cool

But caring about animals, which are inextricably a part of the environment (a link which can be demonstrated by the pollution produced by industrial farming) = not cool?

Seems an odd place to draw the line, but ok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Half the circle of life is animals dying bud

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

It's all about balance. Factory farms are not balanced. Eating meat isn't evil (in my opinion) but factory farming absolutely is.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

Good answer. (Not sarcasm)

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago

Ehh.. I have little sympathy for these farmers who switched from growing food crops (thus contributing to the rise in food prices) to generally very water-intensive cash crops for export and kept getting subsidies meant to ensure a ready supply of food for the populace. This situation was plenty fucked long before Trump put his dick in it, it should not be surprising that he'd make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Super water users now angry their right wing fuckers no longer care specifically about them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah I'm honestly counting this as an absolute win for the planet.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago

Schulz says he voted for President Donald Trump and believes in the goals of his tariff plan, to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and expand exporter access to foreign markets.

That's a shame. ANYWAY . . .

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How nice, alfalfa should not be farmed especially at this scale

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Alfalfa is a great crop. It has deep roots which store carbon in the soil, it is drought tolerant, it's high yielding and it's nitrogen fixating meaning it improves the soil quality and does not require nitrogen fertilizer which normally is a huge carbon footprint. Overall fantastic crop if you need fodder for ruminant animals. The big problem is farming it on an absurd scale in the middle of the damn desert. Alfalfa does not require irrigation in regions with ample rainfall.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

Yeah, as far as I’m concerned, exporting alfalfa is just exporting water

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“In the long run…” so he's still onboard. Let him ride the failure train to financial ruin. Maybe then he'll learn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

he'll learn

Think I found your problem right there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Schulz says he voted for President Donald Trump and believes in the goals of his tariff plan, to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and expand exporter access to foreign markets.

“In the long run I think it will be a good thing," He said.

Dude's face has been eaten and he's still supporting the leopards.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make sure to keep voting for the GOP farmer bob.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He will, because HitlerPig will bail him out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think they will get help this time. JD Vance is invested in AcreTrader and what's a better way to buy thousand's of acres for pennies on the dollar than to bankrupt farmers? And at the end of the day, I really don't think they deserve a bailout.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I agree with you 100%, but HitlerPig did bailouts the last time around, and it kept the famrers on his side, so he'll do it again. Nothing like paying people off to keep their loyalty. In fact, it worked so well last time, that he may be engineering the same scenario this time, just so he can pay them off again, and remind them of it before the next election.

Oh, who am I kidding? There won't be another election.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I'm calling it now, that aid package does not have Trump's approval, he will not sign off on it, or find a way to slap it down.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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