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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If I was Canadian I’d want my government to be handing out fpv drones like they were candy to train up my population to fight a modern conflict

Edit: also, ied building and placement training

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Drones, yes.

Ieds, no.

I don't want a sizable population that knows how to blow shit up until the last possible minute before an invasion.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I feel like by that time it is too late. It seems like a pretty dangerous skill to learn and learning under time constraints would be rough. But I can see the downsides.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Honestly, that's my feeling too. The good news is that not every single person applying the munitions would need to know how to manufacture them, simply to deploy and arm them. The Russian's use of anti-tank mines against Thrid Reich railway lines comes to mind - the conscripts carrying the mines, locating the rail lines, and planting them to destroy trains and railway infrastructure weren't homebrewing them in a shed at home. They were supplied by the state and trained on how to use them, in a way that maybe similar to how modern army forces know how to use Stingers/MANPADS but not how to build them or the components.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m Canadian and I don’t trust 50% of people here to know how to operate a shopping cart competently.

You are delusional.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plus thousands of kilometres of wilderness border, built in disguise, cultural mastery, and lootable weapons all over the place.

Don’t worry, America. We’ll come to you too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

"How many times have the Jays won the Pennant?"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Sure, sure, great ideas there. National security being of utmost importance, let's also burn down all the trees within 50km of the border, replace them with poison ivy, and pre-emptively nuke the tar sands to remove one incentive to invade and show we're not afraid to use the power of the bomb.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Here is the thing. Ukraine has, or could easily within weeks have, nuclear capability (they were actually instrumental in developing Russia's nuclear capability, and they still have the infrastructure, knowledge, and skills) and that is actually to their detriment. It only promotes a 'first strike' mentality in the Russians.

The land border between Canada and the US is just too long for either side to defend.

But here is the thing. The only way the American army could have the resources to do it would be through the National Guard. American forces are spread too thin throughout the world. The National Guard is under the control of the individual state.

The biggest states would be well prepared to sign non-aggression treaties with Canada, meaning their National Guard could not be used. The individual States can not directly sign a treaty, but they CAN prevent their National Guard from participating. If Trump tried to take charge of them, it would for sure lead to a Constitutional Crisis. Since the Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard Units is the governor of each state, not the President, the troops are only answerable to the chain of command that ends at the state level. The individual states would have all the reason they need to secede. It would be civil war second inning in America. And some National Guard units have their own fighter jets and air bases.

That chaos is Canada's best bet for defense.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Here you are still thinking that trump abides by rules.

The national guard is his, and he'll use it and if someone says no, he'll say "fuck you, yes" and that will be the end of I

Constitutional crisis? There have been multiple already in the past months and nothing happened

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

it would for sure lead to a Constitutional Crisis.

News flash: America is already in-play with multiple constitutional crises. PoTUS ignoring direct court orders, abducting and sending US citizens and legal residents to foreign gulags, and so forth.

Now granted, this would be just another one on top of a rapidly-growing pile. But so far the Orange Cheeto has already “won” on a number of points. Right now, the constitution is such in name only. It’s pretty much window dressing at this point. What makes you think that another crisis will actually discourage him from just doing whatever he wants?

America is no longer a democratic country. It is plunging full force into “failed state” status in an epic swan dive of authoritarian destruction.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

During WWII the soviets moved all their important factories to Siberia.

Maybe move at least one or two of your strategic assets more than 50 miles from the border?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Edmonton approves this message.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Nukes? Canada needs to close the Eldritch horror gap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Actually, just nukes would already do

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just see a lot of our military not being into invading Canada. There is a lot of gray space between aggressively applying 100% to a mission and outright desertion. As a person who's spent a career in the military - I don't really know about the infantry-based guys, but the people I served with are not simple order-following automatons - regardless of oathes to follow orders...doing the wrong thing is doing the wrong thing.

Maybe I'm out to lunch, but I'd bet there would suddenly be a lot of broken equipment, and a lot of injured personnel, along with a demand that the children of our political leadership, be among the first of the "cannon-fodder" and "bullet-cushions" to cross into "enemy" territory. I'd also bet that you could say goodbye to our all-volunteer military recruitment numbers. Logistics would likely be another nightmare, as our civilian population would likely have to be violently forced to allow the military use of the roads to transport themselves north. Unlike our previous military campaigns and wars, where Allied ports were made available to mass our troops and supplies, there would be no friendly ports outside our own borders.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done - our military is larger than the next 13 largest militaries combined, after all. I'm suggesting that between the troubles of invasions in themselves, we'd also be dealing with near civil war conditions within our own borders, massive resignations of key people, desertions & AWOLs, protests and civil disobedience, equipment sabotage, and voluntary military ascession falling off a cliff.

There are plenty of military members who would absolutely, with full faith and dedication, follow any order given to them. I'm sure that there are at least some members of our military who (for some reason) would love to invade Canada. But between the domestic troubles, the half-hearted effort of those who would appear to be participating, and the pain of going to war in the first place. Nah, trump is just sabre rattling....it won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the one thing you're missing is the American lies. The dehumanization of the opposition. The propaganda. I don't think that the whole country will fall for it like they did with Bush, and it's not like we have a MORE charismatic leader to sell it this time. But AI generated content and bots selling the lies are unfortunately going to convince a lot of people, we're already seeing it. With a leader that is trying to litigate what higher institutions teach and destroying the public education system, the longer that this wears on, the dumber and dumber the electorate becomes. Military leaders not kissing the leader's ring are already being removed from their posts to be replaced with sycophants.

I hope you're right that there would be rebellion from within the military, and without. Otherwise, we have no friends left and every country on the planet has is justified in rising to the challenge to crush our new axis powers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You make great points, but some of the dehumanizing advantages used in the Middle East would me much less affective here...Canadians are just north of us, and not on the other side of the world. Their customs, traditions, religions, and holidays are similar to ours, and they look just like us. I'd bet that a good number of Americans have Canadian relatives. I live in VA, and my neighbors wife has dual US/Canadian citizenship, as she's originally from Canada.

I'm originally from Erie, PA - going up to Niagara Falls was a regular day trip we'd do several times per year. Funny enough, I've never been to the American side of the falls. I've seen it grow from a destination where you could simply parallel park your car next to the railing looking over the falls, to the tourist trap destination it is today.

The good thing about the education system is that no matter how they try to defend and dumb it down, our people still have to compete with the global, population. We can't import all of our mental talent. Schoolmaster the only place where people gain an education. Kids are smart, resilient, and can often see past the ill-will of adults, no matter how many toys and candies they have.

The great thing about trump may be that he's so fucking terrible, that he may end up pushing people (voters) to make better, more sensible decisions at the voting booth, more than any other politician possibly can. What he's doing, is not only about values, ideas, and hate anymore. He's actually affecting the bank accounts and livelihood of the people who voted for him, and nothing about any of his policies will result in them not being damaged in at least some way. He is so fucking terrible that he may actually be the catalyst to snap the US out of this "conservative populist march towards fascism."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I certainly agree with you here - all of the fascists of history were HIGHLY effective leaders that actually got shit done. The people lived with it because they did what they said they would do. Instead, this disfunctional band of morons can't seem to get a single thing done without a cavalcade of unforced errors and fuck ups.

Oops, we deported the wrong guy. Oops, we fired the folks managing our nuclear arsenal. Oops, we fired ATC during a preexisting ATC shortage. Oops, we sent a letter to Harvard earlier than we meant to, and forced our own hand. Oops, tariffs tanked the world economy, they're paused! No wait, they're back on now! Paused again! Well, we'll make an exception for semiconductors though. Except we never said that? No exception! And now oops, someone caught us exfiltrating all government secrets and data to Russia.

This is the source of my own hope. They're so incompetent and so stupid, execute every plan so poorly... that I find it hard to believe that the American people can ignore it for much longer. Even his racist, Nazi base can't ignore him ruining their lives too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Him ruining the lives of his racist, nazi base is our best hope.....they don't do facts, data, common sense, or believe their eyes over the voices of the talking heads on their favorite news networks.

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