I'm sure you'll do a great job as mod. Thanks for starting this community.
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2024
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A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
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Thank you for making this community. I'm here for it.
Thanks for doing this, I thought I was going insane to have even Lemmy flooded with oh so much slop.
I could do with some help - my latest little crusade is to call out AI slop on facebook and youtube whenever I encounter it, and explain to the poster and commenters why I unfollow anyone who uses AI generated images or text, and why others should do so as well. This is mostly geared towards people who post educational stuff with positive intention but have no idea that using AI is awful and wrong.
To do this I want to use an easily recognizable image (hand drawn of course), but I've realized that many people simply don't understand at all why AI is evil. I'd also need a link to some article or other information that explains it in really simple terms for non-tech people - if any of you good people happen to know of any material I could use please post a link.
Oh, and I've also just found out that Canva, a very popular poster generator, seems to be heavily relying on AI and people have absolutely no idea and tell me "But why, I wasn't using AI, I'm using Canva" when I complain about their slop images.
You can search the articles. Find an illustration that encapsulates things. If you're using a PC, you can use GIMP to put text on an image. I think that, concerning such a mathematical type of technology, you'll probably have to explain things in text, and get people on board with using text instead of images. A good start would be to talk about the energy problems, but you'll find tons of news articles explaining why it's bad.
As far as I know there are two ways to hinder AI-development:
- publish a link to a poisoned dataset, filled with fake generated data, like this one
- programs for generating these tar-pits can be found here for example
- block the bots using your website/service more sophisticated proof of work mechanisms like Anubis
I have no idea how to "moderate well", but from what I'm seeing in this sub, either what you're doing is good enough, or what you're not doing is also good enough.
Keep up the good work and carry on.
If there are communities for artists, let me know!
screw IA
I'm not trying to be an ass, but the genie is out of the bottle. You'd have as much luck campaigning to shut down the internet in the 90's.
Trust me on this one... Put your energy toward navigating a world -with- AI. As long as money is relevant, those who have it will dictate the course of civilization, and there is far too much money behind AI.
Ah yes, because we knows that if everyone does it and a lot of money is invested in it an act clearly known to be wrong will suddenly become right; like systematically hoarding labor as content and than reselling it on their behalf without having to get their consent or paying them.
Nothing wrong with AI itself. Intellectual property and copyright are what props up capitalism, anything that undermines it in a way that democratizes it is progressive
IP laws were a progressive idea. Capitalism has perverted and twisted it into something else like it does with everything it touches.
I didn't say anything about right or wrong. I'm talking about what is and why it will remain so.
Why people should be allowed to knowingly do wrong things out in the open? If they can't justify what they are doing how will they get away with keep doing so in the long term? Why give them a shield?
no
“Gold, yellow, glittering, precious gold! Thus much of this, will make black white; foul, fair; Wrong, right; base, noble; old, young; coward, valiant. ... What this, you gods? Why, this Will lug your priests and servants from your sides; Pluck stout men’s pillows from below their heads; This yellow slave Will knit and break religions; bless the accurs’d; Make the hoar leprosy ador’d; place thieves, And give them title, knee and approbation, With senators on the bench; this is it, That makes the wappen’d widow wed again: ... Come damned earth, Though common whore of mankind.” (Shakespeare: Timon of Athens.)
Except the 90's internet was not this demented positive feedback loop of depravity, misinformation and ecological catastrophe. "Oh but people always lied on the internet" To that I say, it has never been this easy to create hundreds of thousands of bots that sound like the people you know, taking advantage of your trust.
And if we stop AI domestically, other countries are just going to get ahead, putting us at a huge disadvantage globally.
thank you. this is the correct answer. if you hide from technology, it will find you eventually and you'll be completely unprepared for how to deal with it and it will be in the hands of the wrong people.
i'm an artist. i use AI artwork IN my art. i also use photoshop. i don't see a difference between the two things in the big picture.
Text Generating AI makes mistakes when I ask it questions that I can verify the answer to. This is why I am here... Maybe I will post some of the stupid (and funny) mistakes it makes (GPT-4 & Google Bard (Gemini) & LLAMA tested)