Should have cost him his job.
I recently found out that a major health insurer is encouraging all staff to use CoPilot for everything.
I am so glad that they don’t have my health data.
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Companies are just going to add a blurb like «quote generated by ai, we won’t pay for shit»
Seems like a problem that doesn't require AI. Just have an email template with all services, and delete the unnecessary ones. Shouldn't take 5 hours.
Or if he absolutely has to have a 1 hour response time sounds like a hiring someone to do admin might be the best way to stay competitive.
Had a chat with my kids friends while dropping them at home, they were talking about a kid who got busted using ChatGPT for some schoolwork. When I jokingly asked one of them how he avoids getting caught he admitted he uses it for "first drafts" then rewrites the whole thing in "his own words". A bit of drilling down and he admitted it takes him longer to write a short paper with ChatGPT but it's easier because he doesn't have to think of what to say, just how to change the words.
If he was being honest the irony of the dumb kid rewriting the idiot boxes responses so he doesn't get caught is just... Getting the article off Wikipedia and doing the same thing would have a similar result... Only with less faffing around and environmental impact.
Thats really sad. That kid is learning to get good at the one thing ChatGPT excels at - rewriting words into a different form. Who is going to want to employ someone for that?!
I always felt that schools do a bad job of explaining why plagerism is bad. Its not just that its theft, the really damaging part is that it cheats the student out of their own education. A late or poorly written assignment is far better than a passing chatgpt written assignment, because its still involves learning.
Oh it's tragic. The kid is headed for a life of middle management, like I said he may or may not have been being honest. But he goes to the expensive private school that I couldn't afford to send one of my kids to, let alone both. He will make the right connections and be part of the right social circles that details like not understanding his achievements won't really matter.
I've worked for that sort of guy across industries and business, they do fine.
They do fine for themselves but they are detrimental to the rest of the business.
Oh yeah that's what I mean, the trail of wreckage they leave as they get promoted out of the positions they ruin is astounding.
tbh his use of AI is just plain weird, this is more a job of quoting/invoicing software which would already automate and speed up a lot of this stuff
but at the same time it just depends, can getting the response time from 5 hours down to 1 earn them more than taking longer but being more accurate, or even modifying the template so that it doesn't modify line items and values just the writing around the items
Response time does not equal time to write an email.
True. I just assumed it was a significant part of the response time given they went to the effort of automating it. Still, like the other person said, a proper invoicing software should be the correct tool
I write all my emails with ai. But I always read the entire thing before putting in the to email. Ohh and Thunderbird has saved me so Manny times with their did you mean to attach an attachment warning before u send.
+1 for the Thunderbird alert.
User error. Pretty much every AI tool says that you should not trust what it says and that you should check everything yourself.
Also while this cost him $2000, how much did he save by having AI do all the work? If he saved more than $2k then it’s still a net positive.
I saw somebody post some AI stuff the other day. Another dude corrected the glaring error in the first sentence and said AI was rubbish.
I was mortified that the OP posted "AI is awesome, but does need to be fact checked".
But hang on, they knew the limitations and they didn't check anything? Sure enough, when they were called out, they just started name calling everyone.
That day, I clearly saw the future....
Sounds like standard genAI to me. Train on shit; output shit. It's not thinking, it's just loading in the next likely words on a topic.
Common AI in its current state is just 2025 Clippy and finally most people are starting to realise. There's been no major leaps and bounds in technology, just how that tech was applied to stuff and made more available to the masses.
AI is excellent for many things. GenAI is not for most things. There is no magic, just easier access.
The major leap is the devaluing of human work, but instead of coming after material craftsmanship, like shoe making and cabinet making etc., it's coming after abstract thinking. Copy writers are fucked for example. We will accept the inferior product because we have no choice. And yet we have to fight for a job to exist as those jobs becomes scarcer. I think if David Graeber was still around he would have a bullshit jobs 2.0 book out expanding on this.
I think CopyWriting is an under appreciated art form.
I had an apprentice that was moonlighting doing contract CopyWriting for a large advertising conglomerate.
First he tried writing himself, then he outsourced to India, then he used ChatGTP, finally, he just submitted nonsensical Lorem Ipsum text. He still got paid and still kept getting contracts.
I think this is more critical about the Advertising industry than CopyWriters.
idk if this is a left wing progressive trend or if you genuinely called ai clippy, but you clearly have never used clippy
Clippy and I are old fr-... acquaintances.
Then you'd remember clippy was pretty crappy, he'd interject with useless assistance and was universally hated and eventually they stopped including it in Word. Today he's just nostalgia bait for people to cash in on
AI on the other hand is everywhere now and not going anywhere
There’s been no major leaps and bounds in technology
This is absolutely absurd thing to say, hence why I figured you're in an echo chamber
It's making videos:
Starship Troopers - 1950s Super Panavision 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZprU6wDpQ
It's making music:
AI Took My Job - 徐铭轩MaoMao
https://suno.com/song/14572e0f-a446-4625-90ff-3676a790a886
It's making memes:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-11/chinese-boycott-of-trump-tariffs-in-us-trade-war/105166500
I'm using it right now in LM Studio to translate text
10's of millions of people are using at this exact moment to generate images, videos, text, audio translation, text translation, it goes on and on
It's the exact opposite of clippy, it's useful
Your exposure to AI is maybe new?
If you could understand what's behind the curtain, you'd realise not much magic is going on back there. What you're instead noticing is hardware improving, allowing for more aggressive training and processing. The recipe is otherwise pretty much the same as it was five or even eight years ago. This is why we still have the same old issues and they don't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon because the tech is still the same old shit.
And, no, these things you have raised are not new. Perhaps new to some as AI has recently been put on the radar thanks to large-scale training. I can't explain how someone could draw a conclusion like yours unless the current state of AI seems new to them.
"Echo chamber" is a coincidental selection of words in this context.
The recipe is otherwise pretty much the same as it was five or even eight years ago
I'll never stop being amazed at absolute plebs downplaying what is practically magic
Sure man, ai is clippy
Plebs?
I've been working on and with AI since 2012 lol.
And yeah, "practically magic" has told me enough. When we joke about people, the m-word is the always used when putting on a "normie" persona. I'm having an actual "found one in the wild" moment, it's great.
wait you’ve been working on ai since 2012? sorry had no idea, link me some of your research papers on how you’ve improved ai! i’m interested :)
Sure. I even currently work at a university and am on the committee for AI so I can get a few of the others to share theirs on Monday too.
nah i don’t want theirs, i want yours, you’re the one who thinks ai is clippy, it would make me laugh to see the guy doing research papers on improving ai thinks it’s a garbage tier digital assistant that you yourself don’t even use and in fact would drop despite hundreds of millions of people using it daily🙂
i’m aware of how ai works at a fundamental level, they even have a visual on it:
same with evs, solar, solar batteries, smartphones, the new ai robots, we live in the most insane age
just saw this yesterday
How AI Is Helping Us Clean the Ocean https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yOJFFQQx-zY
this is what you remind me of
Louis CK Everything is amazing & Nobody is happy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFB7q89_3U
anyway looking forward to qwen3, let me know about those research papers on clippy, although i should probably ask why you’re wasting your time
Confirmed. New to the concept of AI.
A link to an LLM back end that's not even in code.
And a link to something AI has been used for for years, just as I mentioned in my OC, but you've been hyperfixated on Clippy, so unsurprisingly things have whooshed past you. A traveller shone light on your magic and you don't want to accept it's not magic.
Also, I assume you have subscriptions or single pay options for papers, or at least access to a university that can get them for you at the normal fees?
Since you Google things and share them with me like they're of any value, you can use Google to learn more about that too.
but you’ve been hyperfixated on Clippy
Yes because as I said in my original post:
https://aussie.zone/comment/15963073
The comparison is dumb and you've done nothing to refute that except say that you've got a lot of experience with AI and it's been around for a few years now 👍
A traveller shone light on your magic and you don’t want to accept it’s not magic.
Shone light on your magic? You've done nothing of the sort. AI is incredible! The generation of images, real time voice translation, we're getting close to real time voice conversations with computers, the first time I showed people they were mind blown. Mistral and Qwen have been incredible for me, I'm no longer going through 10 pages of searches to try and find answers to questions I have.
I feel like we've been circling the drain for a while, your papers won't prove much except that for some reason you're working on a dead end product that's about to shut down for over 10 years? no idea why you'd do this but sure, in your mind AI is a bunch of garbage, in my mind it's amazing. I guess we'll just have to beg to differ.