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Thank you, Mr. Trump (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Let me be the First to speak it out: Trump has ended the American Empire. He has ended Europe's blind acceptance of American superpower.

America will never again be what it was. That so called beacon of hope that Public relations Geniuses invented and never really existed.

So, yes thank you Mr. Trump for helping us to wake up and thank you for ending the American empire.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago

I think that the rest of us all around the world need to watch ourselves instead of continuously pointing and laughing at the USA. The far right is doing pretty well in Europe, even in Germany. And I'm sure there's there's more than one house where you'll find grandpa or great grandpa's nazi uniform still in storage, seeing as that was still less than 100 years ago.

We've all got the racist uncle. That was something to also joke about in the USA not long ago until all the racist uncles got together and were joined by the racist parents and sons and daughters.

None of us is currently safe from the christian nationalist hatemongers taking over because the christian nationalist hatemongers walk among us in even bigger numbers than we previously thought.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The damage done by US big tech isn't going to go away anyway soon, and we have barely done anything to combat that. Former blackrock employee Friedrich Merz, coming chancellor of Germany, is definitely not going to be the one to spearhead this. Europe is getting more and more rightwing and that doesn't exactly point to getting more independent from Trump's regime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I partly agree with you, I wouldn't thank that idiot for it. There's a good chance that what he's doing (even if it doesn't fully impact Europe) will eventually drag us into it as well. If he keeps going after China he will at some point set Europe an ultimatum too: stay friends with us and stop everything you're doing with China or be our enemy. If we choose the latter it might eventually even lead to some form of war...

Let's hope that doesn't happen (and most of the damage is contained within the US itself, for better or worse).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

or be our enemy

That would be a geopolitical disaster for the US. No matter how much he yaps his mouth around, Trump doesn't want the EU as an adversary. If that were to happen the US would have 2 flanks to defend against instead of one. And the EU is not Russia. Collectively the EU has the second biggest military budget and the third biggest economy in the world.

Trump is trying to get us to increase centralization at the EU level which is great as far as I'm concerned. But that chucklenut is doing it in a way that will also massively sour relations in the long term. As insane as it sounds, if Trump's successor is going to be like him, China will probably be a more reliable partner than the US. The only caveat is that Taiwan is going to be extremely vulnerable in such a situation.

I'm hoping the US will come to its senses at the next election and relations will normalize. The Americans are pricks, but they are still more ideologically aligned with us than the Chinese.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trump and his supporters do not care even if it hurts them. It is all about hurting people they do not like.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's see how our European governments will handle this new reality first. Could end up being good or bad for us depending on how they act.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So far locally our biggest hit was in the liquor and imports through U.S. so the western union and cultural supermarkets closed. I rarely drink.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't celebrate that quickly. Now the tariffs are dropped again, and they are "negotiating" and then everybody will go back to the usual business, and we will still buy US-Stuff for critical infrastructure

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You even say thanks :o

But yeah we Europeans can only come out if this on top, something that is cabinet of idiots truly loathe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Only if y'all can finally unite.

The real winners here are China and Russia.

I still expect the EU to remain too fractious to have any real foreign relations power. Until you speak with one voice you will remain weak on the global stage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And thank you to all your supporters, who voted for you despite them paying the highest price for it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd argue those paying the highest price might be the legal immigrants in the US getting deported, Palestinians possibly having the existential threat against them worsened as Trump approveds of Netanyahu's genocide without reserves, the Ukrainians having lost the support of the US... With Orban and Meloni at the head of their respective countries and the far-right emboldened everywhere, I think it's a bit early to feel grateful. Empathy for the victims and wariness that we might be facing the same seem like more appropriate sentiments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah I wouldn't be "celebrating" right now when at least half of Europe is falling right into the same type of government: fascist ones.

I am an American. I fucking hate this world we live in now. Everyone is still playing partisan games when the world is actively falling apart around us, and we continue to stick our heads in the sand and say "I know you are but what am I?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

With Orban and Meloni at the head of their respective countries and the far-right emboldened everywhere,

This is actually the real issue, while we look at Trump we have far-right government in the EU, and far-right parties having a significant weight in many countries. So let's not laugh at US too fast

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Is that a surprise, it isn't really new? We started talking about it during the first time he was president. But "nothing" was done really and then he lost the reelection. So we could restart this a bit faster now seeing as we prepared before.

The problem is we went back on that just because Biden got elected. How is it going to be after the next election? Right back to unlimited trust just because it is not Trump? I hope not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I hope the US will be able to look in the ugly face in the mirror and turn the page to real protection of human rights and individual freedoms.

Yes, I mean constitutional changes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A more multipolar world is worth a try, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Absolutely

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The American imperialism is finally done. The history books will definitely feature this as the death knell for the United States of America. I say this as a native of Murica.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

We in Canada will breathe out when the USA stops threatening to attack, and when our own far right has ceased to be an electoral threat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

He wants to make America great again. Greatness is a contested concept at this point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Been hoping or wishing for this for a long time to get off this wild ride of corruption from over there. Not going to thank him, but hope EU picks up the slack and gets things moving. Become a even greater superpower.