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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I just heard the reasons for these tariffs is probably based directly on the ratio between trade deficit compared to total trade. A tiny island where almost nobody lives and that never trades with the US got into the highest tariff category because some American bought $3 million worth of sea food in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 44 minutes ago

Okay but you're missing the point: I want to believe that this is all a highly planned and funded Russian op because the alternative is that half the country elected someone so incredibly dumb WITHOUT a conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

That is true. They used a basic equation of how much less they export to a country. And some said that this is the answer that gives the AI if you ask it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why are French overseas territories listed as individual nations?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

The current thinking is that these tariffs were drawn up by ChatGPT, and it's used a list of top-level domains (like .io and .hm) instead of countries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Notice how the UK got less? He wants them to follow him like a scottish terrier, and if Farage worms his way into power, I know for a fact they’re going down the same route.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why Bosnia, Serbia and Moldova so much?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Poor countries got screwed. The formula of how tariffs calculated is a simple equation of how much less USA exports to a country than import.

Many poor countries due to currency difference do that and got high tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

If these tariffs were made to benefit Russia, why doesnt Ukraine have a higher percentage?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Because they weren't made intelligently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

Note that more importantly, Russia has been uniquely spared any tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I saw that it is a simple equation of how much less USA exports to a country. So poor countries that import less from USA due to currency difference and export more they got screwed much more. Russia due to sanctions maybe has no trade currently that's why she is no on the list.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Lol. There are seriously 185 counties across the four pages of that list. And Russia is not one of them.

This is out of the 193 sovereign states that the UN recognizes. Wild

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

The import & export totals are similar to Sri Lanka who got 44%

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Several of the entries on the list are not independent countries (French Guiana, for example, has a different rate to the EU despite being part of France and the EU) and one doesn’t even have a human population (Heard & McDonald Islands, an Australian territory near Antarctica)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

That's a good observation. Also kind of weird.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Oooh. Which one doesn't even have humans?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Heard & McDonald Islands! It's an Australian territory literally thousands of kilometres from the nearest permanent human settlement. Scientists stop by to check on the penguins sometimes. It got its own entry on the list

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised he put tariffs on an uninhabited (by humans) island. I am surprised he put tariffs on a place called McDonald island.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

Make McDonald's American Again!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think they meant for this to look like a scorpion about to fuck shit up

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Only if Russia is sort of a giant, expressive fart.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I mean, that comparison might not be wrong...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Why such high tariffs on Moldova? They’re a poor nation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

It's the trade deficit masquerading as a tarrif - Moldova sells more than it buys from America because American stuff is expensive and Moldova can't afford to buy American goods so it gets hit with "reciprocal" tariffs on it's exports.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I have updated the post with a link to full list. Vietnam got 46% lmao.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

for (c in countries) {
  c.tariffs = Math.random();
}

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Sadly there are many reports, that it's just


for (c in countries) { 
    c.tariffs = math.max(10,
        (c.exportsTo(us) - c.importFrom(us)) /
        (c.exportsTo(us)*2))
}

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

That might be the chatGPT answer to Trump asking how tariffs can make America great again lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

when will the snarky code comments start using functional programming

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Something like

tariff export import  = max(10, (100 * (1 - import/export))
map countries tariff

?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that the theory is countries that don't purchase ad much from the us as the us buys from said country got more tarrifs because in trumps mind they're losing money.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

It's not a theory, they published the formula, that's just straight up what it is.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Reporters could recreate the entire list exactly by asking ChatGPT/Grok/Claude/Gemini what would be an easy way to tariff other nations.
The tariff % is simply the US trade deficit with that country divided by imports from it.

https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok

[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Switzerland was so proud of avoiding the face eating leopard for so long. But the leopard found out how delectable Swiss faces are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Idiot opportunists still haven't learned there are no opportunities with fascists like Trump. Fucking idiots.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

10% is the default, no? Does that not include Russia? Not that there should be any trading at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (7 children)

Russia is not on the list. The bare minimum is 10% from the list. Also the whole list from BBC

Edit: holy fuck i didn't see that there are 4 pages of that list. . .

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Does this mean Russia doesn't get any tariffs at all? Also, why higher tariffs for Switzerland than the EU, but lower for the UK?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago

It seems like they have, generally speaking, made up the numbers by dividing the total value of imports vs exports with that country. So if the USA imports $200,000,000 of stuff from Switzerland and exports $100,000,000, they're saying that that means Switzerland has 50% effective tariffs against America (no, this does not make any goddamn sense, but it appears to be what they're doing), and then "reciprocating" with half of that number, so 25% tariffs on Switzerland. 10% is the floor which they're applying no matter what... except for on Russia, apparently

The UK presumably imports more American stuff, proportionate to exports, than the EU does

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

Russia is sanctioned (for now at least). For UK and other countries, probably they played some games on closed doors, during the white house visiting. We will see, i don't gonna be surprised if UK buys military equipment from USA (or more that they were planning of).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago

It's clear who Trump works for.

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